User talk:Unleashed entertainment

Concern regarding Draft:David July

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 19:01, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: David July (March 15)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Mcmatter was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.

McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 01:58, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:David July

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A tag has been placed on Draft:David July, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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David July

Hello. Wik9ipedia is an encyclopedia. it is not a venue to promote your clients. As you are his manager, please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:04, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Silly me. Only now do I see that this is the name of a company. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:05, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

March 2023

Hello, Unleashed entertainment. Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia-- the world's largest free content encyclopedia. I'm sorry, but a page you created Draft:David July has been deleted as meeting one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:04, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

We are not paid promotion agency

Decline reason:

Per below, as well as utter failure to even acknowledge the username issue. — Daniel Case (talk) 06:38, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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We submitted for David July to enter the Wikipedia encyclopedia as a notable public figure and were blocked from editing Wikipedia for "unambiguous promotion material". This is far from the case.

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because...

David July is certainly a notable figure amongst the music industry who belongs in the encyclopedia. He has sold and packed out multiple shows in the city of Vancouver as has nearly 300,000 streams across platforms and thousands of fans and followers. Additionally,

-He has played shows across the continent. Links provided: https://rap2fame.com/david-july-announces-his-2023-tour/ https://do206.com/events/2023/2/23/david-july-tickets https://www.bsmt254.com/event/david-july-live-the-kaleidoscope-tour/ https://happeningnext.com/event/david-july-kaleidoscope-tour-vancouver-eid4so1gmgcjf1

He has dozens of media publications: https://www.curiousformusic.com/post/get-to-know-david-july https://365interviews.com/david-july-releases-powerful-hold-my-own/ https://calipost.com/david-july-is-putting-on-for-vancouver-with-want-it-all/ https://lyrnow.com/1055226 https://plyric.com/david-july-want-it-all

-He is a verified artist on 'Genius', the worlds leading database on music metadata https://genius.com/artists/David-july.

-He has nearly 5,000 followers on instagram(https://www.instagram.com/davidjulymusic/)

-Over a quarter million streams on Spotify(https://open.spotify.com/artist/3q40bLJsFjDFF8o5FE0vRJ

We firmly believe he is a notable artist that deserves a Wikipedia profile.

For more information on David July you can visit his official website, davidjulymusic.com and email us at mgmt@davidjulymusic.com. Unleashed entertainment (talk) 02:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You said here you are his manager.] Therefore, please read and heed WP:PAID. Your user name is the name of a company. Please follow the instructions in the block notice for renaming. Showing that you will not make promotional edits would be a big, essential step toward unblocking. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:20, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What steps can I take to show I do not make promotional edits nor am I paid representative of David July? Management does not equal pay :) Unleashed entertainment (talk) 02:21, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your content was promotional in nature. You need to understand how to not promote your subject. I offer advice in the deletion notice above-- particularly where I talk about common pitfalls. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:24, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay following up on this aspect:

"Someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject."

I attached over a dozen press articles that were in no way written by anyone on our team above. Does this help our cause.

Put simply, what will it take to get him an official Wikipedia Page. Is the information provided above about his national tours, streaming numbers, Genius verification, and others not enough? Unleashed entertainment (talk) 02:27, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need for the WP:AFC reviewers to review your sourcing assuming you get unblocked.. You really want to promote this person, don't you? We don't have Official Pages. We are an encyclopedia. We have encyclopedia articles. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing you can do to not prove you are a paid editor, you have already admitted to being his manager which even though you may not be paid you are considered to be paid for our purposes of disclosure. Your draft was written in the manner for a promotional piece and not encyclopedic in tone or style. The last point is your concept of notability is not the same as Wikipedia's. Please see Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:NMUSIC these are our criteria. You will not see Spotify plays, Genius status or even how many Instagram followers they have as one of our criteria. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 02:29, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay looking at the 'Notability tab', it seems to me we check off most of the boxes for notability. If an outside writer who is in no way involved with David July team were to submit what we submitted, would it have been accepted? Unleashed entertainment (talk) 02:31, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You need to follow the instructions you have already been given. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:34, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

no, it was written in a way to promotional tone, I only noticed your name after I had declined and tag it for deletion. It was deleted because it was an advert and not encyclopedic and required a complete re-write in an neutral encyclopedic tone. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 02:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]