User talk:Umofomia/Archive 2

This is an archive of past discussions with User:Umofomia. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

This archive consists of older conversations I've had with other users (including those that appear on their talk pages) from April 2005 to May 2005. Entries are ordered by the date of the last comment.

Wh-movement

Posted on User talk:TAKASUGI Shinji 05:36, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In wh-movement I wrote:

Many SVO languages, such as English, have wh-movement like VSO languages.

meaning some SVO languages lack wh-movement, like Chinese, which is of course a wh-in-situ language. But I admit my words are not clear enough. I'll re-edit. - TAKASUGI Shinji 05:42, 2005 Apr 4 (UTC)

Replied 06:54, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Chinese surnames

Posted on User talk:A-giau 18:40, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of Cantonese-related topics

Hello again. Would you be interested to help keeping List of Cantonese-related topics up-to-date? Thanks. — Insta ntnood 11:39, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:Instantnood 07:18, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Coz it seems like the list is a bit empty, and I actually don't know exactly what should be included. :-D — Insta ntnood 07:23, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Say, hypercorrection. :-) — Insta ntnood 10:46, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Hong Kong surnames

Posted on User talk:Instantnood 07:30, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding. :-D — Insta ntnood 07:34, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

The category was nominated to WP:CFD soon after it was created. :-D

Replied 18:16, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I start to agree with them to a certain extent, and in fact I did think about those when I was creating the category. The articles are not Hong Kong-specific, but all are surnames transcribed based on Cantonese and Hong Kong conventions. We have to decide on whether to have a centralised location, say, based on Pinyin, for all Han surnames, and have all variations of each redirected to it, as what is done to Smith. — Insta ntnood 18:23, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

I've added a new section at Talk:Chinese surname. Come and say something :-D. — Insta ntnood 15:02, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Replied 20:29, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Chinese SVO vs. SOV

Posted on User talk:Curps 07:24, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC) (amended 07:24, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC); amended 08:29, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC))

I have the Li and Thompson book (which is about Mandarin specifically). What they say is that Mandarin has features that are typical of SVO languages and also features that are typical of SOV languages, and may be (unlike other Chinese dialects) in the process of very gradually changing from an SVO to an SOV language. They do note that complex sentences are almost always SVO.

Anyway, if you wish to characterize Chinese as SVO I guess I have no objections. -- Curps 08:39, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Corrected 23:51, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dim sum

Posted on User talk:Huaiwei 16:58, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC) (amended 17:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Reply by Huaiwei 17:07, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Replied 17:34, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Huaiwei 17:41, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Replied 17:50, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Huaiwei 17:53, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by SchmuckyTheCat 20:00, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Chinese language

Posted on User talk:Mark Dingemanse 08:54, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC) (amended 08:55, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Reply by Mark Dingemanse 10:07, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC) (amendment 10:09, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Replied 11:07, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dim Sum and Hong Kong eating culture

I am not sure if Huaiwei has misunderstood the use of categories. Wikipedia:Categorization has some details, with which I believe Dim Sum categorised under category:Hong Kong eating culture justifiable. He might also have not recognised why the category is titled "eating culture" but not "cuisine".

Thanks for stepping in and mediate. I guess it's a bit inappropriate for me to talk about it at his talk page, or else it will end up with dispute. :-D — Insta ntnood 18:50, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

By the way I have started the Hong Kong eating culture article. — Insta ntnood 20:29, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks Umofomia. ([1]) — Insta ntnood 20:29, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

hee, I came to say thanks as well, with the second diff. :) [2] SchmuckyTheCat 20:47, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I came to say thanks, too!! Thanks for your encouragement on the proposed Double Jeopardy on votes and also your understanding on the POVness of the definition over geographical China. I really appreciated it.Mababa 00:52, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"China"/"PRC" vs. "mainland China" for page titles

Following the long discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese) regarding proper titling of Mainland China-related topics, polls for each single case has now been started here. Please come and join the discussion, and cast your vote. Thank you. — Insta ntnood 12:48, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

Phonetics

Posted on User talk:Stevertigo 03:33, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I see. Ill change it. -SV|t|th 03:59, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I need your help

Hello Umofomia. A request for arbitration has been filed against me at WP:RFAr by Snowspinner as the AMA advocate for jguk. What do you think I can do? — Insta ntnood 20:43, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:Instantnood 22:54, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have read your comments. You have been helpful. Thanks a lot, and I still need your help in the near future over this matter. :-D — Insta ntnood 23:00, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

Please don't edit other users' comments

Posted on User talk:Karmosin 23:38, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) (corrected 23:41, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Reply by Karmosin 00:05, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

Replied 00:34, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Written Chinese

Post on User talk:Yuje by Instantnood 07:09, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC) (amendment 07:10, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC))

Reply by Yuje 10:48, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Instantnood 08:06, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Replied 21:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Philip Baird Shearer 08:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Naming conventions (Chinese) - Eras and Emperors

Posted on User talk:Colipon 23:22, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC) (corrected 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Third-party opinion

Posted on User talk:Wally\Instantnood advocacy 22:45, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) (corrected 22:58, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Thanks — as a matter of fact, I'd noticed that too! Plus, I agree, I think there is no way there were so many polls. However, arbitration may in the end help to sort things out — we'll deal with those errors of fact in evidence.

If you have any further info that you think might be helpful, please do not at all hesitate to drop me a line. Wally 23:12, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Replied 23:24, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by MarkSweep 01:18, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Huaiwei 15:58, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the info and your comments, they were very helpful and, as Wally said, let us know if you have anything else that might be helpful. --Wgfinley 03:32, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Huaiwei 16:07, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Mababa 05:09, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) (amendment 05:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Post by SebastianHelm 08:39, 2005 Apr 22 (UTC)

Reply by Huaiwei 09:30, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by SebastianHelm 10:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC) (amendment 10:51, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Reply by Huaiwei 11:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mandarin (linguistics) References

Posted on User talk:Taxman 09:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, that is great. If some of the external links are quality references and have been used to fact check or add material to the article, they should be formatted as references as on the Wikipedia:Cite sources page. Thank you, that's one more down. - Taxman 13:08, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Classical Chinese edits

Very good edits. Thank you. Jiawen 15:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

MIT contributions

Posted on User talk:4.228.102.139 08:28, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) (amended 08:32, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC); corrected 08:46, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Replied 10:28, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by 4.228.102.139 11:06, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

4.228.102.139's contributions

Posted on User talk:Harro5 10:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Replied 12:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Raymond Stata

Posted on User talk:Fbriere 23:52, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Logogram

Posted on User talk:Kwamikagami 01:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Kwamikagami 06:39, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Replied 07:26, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Kwamikagami 07:42, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Replied 08:03, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Kwamikagami 08:21, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC) (correction 08:26, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Standard Mandarin and Vernacular Chinese

Post on User talk:Ran by Instantnood 16:18, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Reply on User talk:Instantnood by Ran 02:13, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Reply on User talk:Ran by Instantnood 17:20, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Reply on User talk:Instantnood by Ran 19:34, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Replied 19:47, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What came up in my mind is like.. which is a derivative of which.. :-D I suppose vernacular Chinese came from classical Chinese, with elements of the spoken variants, predominantly the northern ones, as well as some influence from western languages on syntax and sentence structure, and Japanese on vocabularies. Standard Mandarin is based on Beijing dialect for pronunciation, and vernacular Chinese for grammar and vocabularies. — Insta ntnood 18:29, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Replied 20:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

You're right. But there are quite a number of articles on Wikipedia saying vernacular Chinese is based on standard Mandarin, which is not true. — Insta ntnood 21:00, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Reply on User talk:Ran by Instantnood 18:28, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Response to Mababa's response

Hello Umofomia, I have seen your response in the evidence page in the arbitration case. Sign.... Thank you for your research on the votes of statement 3. I guess it makes that vote indeed endorsed by a slight margin. I really have to say that this is really an unfortunate situation. The new evidence Mark pulled out really forced me have to reposition my arguement. :( --Mababa 04:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:Mababa 02:09, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear football

Hi Umofomia,

Please see my response to your note regarding the disambig notice on Football.

I read the Nuclear football article and found it quite interesting (so much so that I followed a number of related links to find out more), however I do not feel that a disambig on the generic football page is appropriate for the reasons outlined in the discussion.

Cheers, --Daveb 14:34, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Teresa Teng and category:Cantopop

Hello Umofomia. Would you be interested to join the discussion on whether the article on Teng should be categorised under category:Cantopop, and perhaps, to mediate? Thanks in advance. — Insta ntnood 15:50, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:Instantnood 20:50, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks so much. — Insta ntnood 20:53, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

I don't know if you would be interested to take a look at list of articles at category:British rule in Singapore and category:Military of Singapore under British rule after reading the arguments by Huaiwei in this edit. :-D — Insta ntnood 21:31, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Post on User talk:Mailer diablo by Instantnood 15:53, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Reply by Instantnood 16:19, May 1, 2005 (UTC) (amendment 16:19, May 1, 2005 (UTC))

Reply on User talk:Instantnood by User:Mailer diablo 18:40, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Replied 00:04, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. — Insta ntnood 23:50, May 10, 2005 (UTC) 23:49, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

Reply on User talk:Mailer diablo by Instantnood 23:49, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

Posted on User talk:Huaiwei 23:33, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Huaiwei has expressed at category talk:Cantopop and talk:Teresa Teng that he has plan to list category:Cantopop to WP:CFD. — Insta ntnood 08:28, May 14, 2005 (UTC)