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Hi Tychu9! Yes, I am the one who usually updates the Positions by Round info.

I actually wrote a nifty little Python program that scrapes the data from the MLS website, and then figures out all of the positions.

In this case, after they had played 29 games, Portland had 37 points, New York had 36 points, and Houston had 36 points (NY had a better goal differential, which is the tiebreaker). Although Chicago hasn't yet played their 29th game, they only have 30 points, so they can't pass any of the teams. And, while DC has only played 28 games, they have 38 points, meaning that they will have passed all 3 of these teams once their position is finalized (Technically, they could still pass some more teams depending on what happens in their 29th game.).

As for the 30th round, Portland has 37 points, which puts them below DC, yet still enough above Chicago that Chicago can't catch them, even with 2 games in hand.

I know that someone was keeping each round's data (wins, losses, goals, etc.) in a spreadsheet, but I don't know if they've continued to update it. I've just been using my program.

If you see any problems with my calculations, then please let me know!

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Hello, Tychu9. Wikipedia needs people who propose articles for deletion. I don't see them as the police. Rather, they are simply making sure that whatever is included in the encyclopedia is notable. Whether an article is notable is based on the guidelines at WP:N. If an article addresses subject matter that is part of a WikiProject, the members of the project typically refine the general notability guidelines to define what is and isn't notable. Without the concept of notability applied, nothing would stop an editor from writing an article about the season of the youth-league team on which his or her child plays. There needs to be a line somewhere, even if the line is fuzzy. WikiProject Football's notability guidelines don't mention articles about team seasons. However, the notability guidelines for sports articles says that articles about individual seasons almost always meet the notability requirements, if they are about teams playing in top professional leagues. You may have noticed that, based on this, the article is a candidate for deletion. It is important that the point be made that the guideline is not a rule, and there are frequent departures. For example, no one disputes the notability of 2017–18 Bolton Wanderers F.C. season, even though Bolton Wanderers are not playing in a top league. Also, the USSF is treating the Cosmos in a manner similar to that of a team playing in a fully professional league: the Cosmos have been granted an entry into the 2018 U.S. Open Cup. While all teams in fully professional leagues may compete in the tournament, NPSL teams had to qualify based on their 2017 league results. The Cosmos have no 2017 NPSL results, but were given a special entry into the competition anyway. Since the USSF is not treating the Cosmos like a team paying in something other than a fully professional league, Wikipedia should not do so either. The 2018 Cosmos received national media coverage on ESPN's website, which reported the team's appeal to the USSF for an entry in the Open Cup. Once I've goten my thoughts together, I intend to express them on the article's request for deletion page. I suggest you do the same. Taxman1913 (talk) 05:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It will also be helpful if there is some narrative prose added to the article. Right now, it looks too much like a collection of statistics. I intend to add something over the next few days. Taxman1913 (talk) 05:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I just made my plea on the article's request for deletion page. We'll see how it goes. Taxman1913 (talk) 05:33, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you look carefully at the guideline it says top leagues, not fully professional. Bolton does not play in a top league. The nominator created the standard of fully professional leagues on his own. I agree with the principle of what they're saying about "other things exist," but that doesn't preclude the article from deserving inclusion in Wikipedia. They are correct to point out that NPSL is not officially sanctioned by USSF; it is unofficially a fourth tier league. I do think that WikiProject Football should have a serious discussion about team season articles, since the standard applicable to sports teams in general is clearly not being followed. While I respect your opinion and your right to it, I don't agree that simply because someone is willing to write an article about a semi-pro team's season that it belongs in Wikipedia. There needs to be a reason why articles are included—they should be notable, whatever that means. In general, NPSL teams should not have articles. The 2018 Cosmos are an exception in my opinion. Taxman1913 (talk) 15:01, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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