User talk:Tuna12

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Nikkimaria (talk) 23:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: First edit

Good job the content edit, but please make sure you finish the tutorial and do edits in the sandbox as well. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your contribution to the draft

I am looking forward to seeing your section today. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problems

You should avoid long quotations, such as here or here. If its important, say it in your own words. See also: Wikipedia:Quotations#When_not_to_use_quotations. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is still possible to present statistical information in different ways. Is there a particular paragraph, for example, that you are having hard time with? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 07:16, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your note

Hi. I'm on limited time this week due to the holiday, but wanted to give you at least some response. Please let me know if you have questions.

The best thing to do is to rewrite the sections in the linked temporary space in all new language. The temporary space can be edited by clicking here. Limited quotation marks can be used, but these must be brief and should best be used when it is necessary to clarify who holds a particular point of view. (See the non-free content policy and guideline for some guidance on how to use them.)

It is best to begin these sections over again, because if you try to just change the text already used you run the risk of creating a derivative work, which only the original copyright holder has the right to license. Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing has some suggestions for how to write material in your own language to avoid copyright problems. Though geared more for avoiding plagiarism issues, this article also offers some advice. This guide from Purdue University can also be helpful.

When new content is created, an administrator will review it to be sure that it no longer constitutes a copyright problem. If it's all clear, it should be merged into the existing material. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 03:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've replaced the copyright problem section at "2009 G-20 Pittsburgh Summit" with your new text, but there is one remaining problem: the quote from [1]. First, you need to introduce a quote by saying who said it. You can't just put it out there. You also have to place a citation immediately next to it to make clear where it comes from. Finally, there's really no good reason for us to use the text except that we want it. Believe me, I know how hard it is to rewrite some information-dense text in your own words, but unless there's a good reason to use theirs (some of them are described at WP:NFC), we really don't have a choice.

I went ahead and added the citation, but the other concerns need to be addressed. Given the third problem, I wouldn't bother introducing the quote but would rewrite it.

Here's my technique: I make a bullet list of the information I want to use. Doing this sentence by sentence is harder than larger texts, but not impossible. Here's what we get.

100,000 manufacturing employees
second-largest market in the United States for metals industry employment.

Then I take the material before it and see if I can gracefully write a new sentence (or more) using that material.

Pittsburgh utilizes its past by building on previous successes in manufacturing, business services, and green energy. "Pittsburgh manufacturers employ almost 100,000 workers and the region is the second-largest market in the United States for metals industry employment."[30] Pittsburgh is also home to some of the worlds largest business and financial services,which supply the greatest amount to the regional economic output.

Hmmm. I might do something like this:

Pittsburgh utilizes its past by building on previous successes in manufacturing, business services, and green energy. It is a major center for manufacturing. In the metals industry, the region is the second-largest market for employment in the nation. Manufacturing in general employs nearly 100,000 people. Pittsburgh is also home to some of the worlds largest business and financial services, which supply the greatest amount to the regional economic output.

(If you like any of that text, you are welcome to use it. Wikipedia's contributors are entitled to credit, but I'm happy to release the two sentences I wrote there into public domain.)

This is not the only way you could manage this. You can more closely paraphrase if you give credit to the person whose words you're using. (But giving credit doesn't mean you can't infringe copyright! You still have to use quotation marks to duplicate words and you really have to be careful not to overuse this technique.) For instance, you could say:

Pittsburgh utilizes its past by building on previous successes in manufacturing, business services, and green energy. It is a major center for manufacturing. Nearly 100,000 people are employed by Pittsburgh's manufacturers, with employment in the metals industry of the region particularly outstanding; for such employment, according to the Pittsburgh Regional Alliance, the area provides "the second-largest market in the United States."[30] Pittsburgh is also home to some of the worlds largest business and financial services, which supply the greatest amount to the regional economic output.

This way, I'm using a brief quote to attribute a statement.

I know your instructor wants you learning and practicing these skills, but trust he won't mind a demonstration of my personal technique. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re:Graph and Chart

Replied at Talk:Economy_of_Pittsburgh#Chart. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 06:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File copyright problem with File:Cesqpittca.gif

Thank you for uploading File:Cesqpittca.gif. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Skier Dude (talk) 03:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed that for you. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]