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Please read through WP:SYNTH, which concerns the synthesis of published material. While you did add a valid citation, the prose added includes analysis that is not appropriate. A good secondary source like the Bellevue Reporter or Puget Sound Business Journal would be better for discussing the number of projects and their impact, rather than adding up the individual entries on the city's project list. Sounder Bruce 19:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SounderBruce Thank you for reference, and I did read through it. But it does seem to me that WP:What SYNTH is not and in particular the section "SYNTH is not summary" is more relevant, in this situation. I'm not expounding a new thesis or expressing a point of view. Rather, I'm just summarizing. To me, your position is contrary to much of the philosophy of Wikipedia in that you are overly strictly using a guideline to prevent the improvement of an article. Why are you doing this? I will also just note that in wp:proveit there is this advice to editors: "If you think the material is verifiable, you are encouraged to provide an inline citation yourself before considering whether to remove or tag it."— Preceding unsigned comment added by Truth Is King 24 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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John from Idegon Actually, John, there is a policy against removing another editor's contribution without first taking it talk, unless it is a case of vandalism or disruptive editing wp:status quo. If sourcing is the issue, you can always ask that the material be properly sourced. Second, can you provide me with a policy or guideline that states that "[i]mages used in articles are required to illustrate copy"? Further, I certainly disagree with you that "a hole in the ground in this city looks like a hole in the ground in any other city." For goodness sake, look at the size of that thing, with whole pieces of construction equipment inside, giving you an idea of the mighty scale of the construction. These construction projects are not only a huge part of the Bellevue economy, but they give an indication of the size of the expansion that is underway. It absolutely illustrates the fact that significant construction projects are underway in Bellevue, which is significant to the Bellevue economy. Further, wp:equality we are all equal here. I'm sorry if you feel that your years of editing give you superior rights, but they don't. Truth Is King 24 (talk) 23:08, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, but it gives me a better understanding. Would you take the advice of a medical student over the advice of his instructor? Of course you wouldn't. Our policies are purposely vague, as it has always been the intention of Wikipedia to decide everything by consensus. With the exception of three or four policies that have legal implications (WP:COPYRIGHT, WP:LIBEL, WP:CHILD and only in severe circumstances, WP:HARASSMENT), no rule here is absolutely binding. The WP:5P are almost sacrosanct, but everything else is debatable. I'll not argue the content issue here, as it should be discussed on the article's talk page for wider participation. If I might, I'd suggest you stop taking getting reverted personally. It's part of the standard operating procedure here, and indeed is a key element in our method of determining truth and other content issues. Always has been, always will be. Since the very beginning. Many policies and guidelines are narrowly focused and some are even contradictory. Not every "WP" link is policy or guidelines. Most are essays that express a certain editor's (or editors') viewpoints. They aren't binding. But many, like BRD, express widely held community practice. The only way to know which are which is, unfortunately, experience. You are of course free to do what you wish, but it would be wiser to listen. I'm not the most pleasant person to converse with, but if you listen, you learn. And conversation is an absolute requirement here. Debate is part of the process. See you at the article's talk page. John from Idegon (talk) 23:52, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As an aside, there's a similar hole in the ground in Portland that has been there for about 15 years. So much has been written about it, that it has an article here. Sorry, can't remember the title. John from Idegon (talk) 23:55, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This is just such absolute nonsense. I'm going to leave it up as a badge of honor. I made one change - clearly this editor had no justification whatsoever to put this on my page.Truth is King^TALK 02:50, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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