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2018–present: Decaying crown ? what ? (Fifa world ranking of Thailand national football team : 2020=113, 2019=115 2018=118 and 2017=130 2015=133 2014=142 2013=146) 2018-present ranking and Thai national team improve. you shall focus on FIFA world Ranking and major tournament of Asia like Asian cup or World cup qualification, don t focus on minor tournament in Asean or Asean tropy, it's Mickey Mouse trophy, and please read carefully "Sirisak guided Thailand to a win over Bahrain and a draw with the host UAE, enough to move on to the knockout stage of the AFC Asian Cup for the first time in 47 years." first time in 47 years. Decaying crown ? that cause why many people don't like your's edit !
Peerapong097 (talk) 21:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- You said "Southeast asia level is what mainly characterizing the Thailand senior national team", No, you have got it wrong.
- since 2016 after new FA Thailand under pol gen. Somyot Poompanmoung, Southeast asia level not mainly characterizing the Thailand senior national team under new 20 year plan (2016-2036) , mainly are Asia tournament Asian Cup or Fifa world cup Q.
- From FA Thailand :
- http://fathailand.org/media/download/cms/media/download-file/sys-e8bbcbac495470a4ad4ad6d88ec0ff14.pdf
- http://fathailand.org/news/2156
- "เป็นสมาคมกีฬาฟุตบอลชั้นนำในทวีปเอเชีย เพิ่อก้าวสู่มาตรฐานโลก"
- "To achieve in Asia's level and step foward to be on the world stage"
- in 2016 after thailand national team Q to 2018 FIFA world cup last 12 team of Asian zone it first time of our national team, that FA Thailand under Somyot have buit a new master plan to improve Thailand national team
- in 2019 Thailand enough to move on to the knockout stage of the AFC Asian Cup for the first time in 47 years
- that cause title of content = Rebuit ,this title in my opinion suits best. . I mean, “2017–present: Rebuilding” title suits that section because from 2017 onward till now, Thailand has shown much change in Asia level
- and you said "while they at the same time lost their regional domination (the AFF 2018 failure)." your opinion are wrong.
- AFF 2018 tournament Thailand not use main player squad, 5 main players from Japan league and Europe leage, Fa Thailand not sent 5 main players to Asean tournament because Fa Thailand focus on AFC Asian cup 2019 that was began on January 2019, that make Thailand national team to move on to the knockout stage of the AFC Asian Cup for the first time in 47 years
- look as Japan and South Korea national football team, them FA not sent main player squad to play in their regional minor tournament EAFF E-1 Football Championship too. but they focus on Major match AFC Asian Cup or Fifa world cup Q.
- For now, If you don’t like it, please don’t revert again straight away.Peerapong097 (talk) 09:33, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- i talk about the team's factual performance. The fact is that Thailand enough to move on to the knockout stage of the AFC Asian Cup for the first time in 47 years, AFF Championship not major picture or major tournament but it minor region tournament same as aEAFF E-1 Football Championship of East Asia or Gulf Cup of West Asia and must not be picked up as the main content ! i know you don't care if they use B squads but FA Thailand care about that, and who are you ? FA Thailand mean Football Association of Thailand
- "Rebuilding" are use in many wikipedia football team page and very convincing if have good reference.
- You said "Asian Cup 2019 It's not that much of a big move" Asian cup is a biggest major tournament of Asia affter FIFA world cup Q and FIFA.com, AFC.com website report after match, statistics every match, it's most important for every National team of Asia, Team like Japan S.Korea call up the best player from Europe
- You said "they met rather easier opponents than previous tournaments, but still struggle to make it through" No, you have got it wrong. In Asian cup 2019 Thailand national football team is in Group A , From FIFA ranking before January 2019 every team in Group A are stronger than our team Thailand
- United Arab Emirates : FIFA World Ranking 70 and they are host of this tournament India : FIFA World Ranking 97 Bahrain : FIFA World Ranking 102 Thailand : FIFA World Ranking 118
| Pos | Team | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts | Qualification |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 |  United Arab Emirates (H)
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3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 2 | +2 | 5 | Advance to knockout stage |
| 2 |  Thailand
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3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 5 | −2 | 4[a] | |
| 3 |  Bahrain
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3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 4[a] | |
| 4 |  India
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3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 3 |
(H) Hosts
Notes:
- You said "and lost to not so powerful China in round of 16" No, you have got it wrong. China national football team stronger than Thailand since 2001(20 years) from FIFA world ranking before January 2019 Fifa ranking of China PR is 76 but Thailand 118 and the fact is China, they played in World Cup 2002 and Chinese league very stronger than Thai league they have highest current AFC Club Competitions Ranking too.
- You said "And the 2022 World Cup qualification: they could not beat Vietnam, and even lost to Malaysia, this is much worse than the 2018 WC qualification in 2015, when they beat Vietnam twice. How is that an "improve" or "rebuild"??" 2022 World Cup qualification don't have title content in this wikipedia page because it still have 3 match to play in future and in 2022 World Cup qualification Thailand national team won United Arab Emirate too, Our team still have chance to go next round with 2 match in Home and 1 Away match.
- You said "we don't talk about plans or side activities, we talk about the main performance/the results." Main performance/the results of (2018 FIFA World Cup Q,2019 AFC Asian Cup, 2022 FIFA World Cup Q) all result from 2017-present Thailand national team was improve, you can watch on Fifa world ranking , That cause you can not use "2017–present: the decaying crown" for the title of content
- (Fifa world ranking of Thailand national football team : 2020=113 2019=115 2018=118 and 2017=130 2015=133 2014=142 2013=146)
- You said "If you don't agree, just edit the history section "the decaying crown" because that part seems to be the only thing you disagree. The other parts I made edits are OK, aren't they? Don't revert them without discuss."
- I don't agree with 2 History content of you "2008–2016: subverted and recrowned" and "2017–present: the decaying crown"
- Peerapong097 (talk) 12:21, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- 1. You said "Well, AFF Championship are minor to the world not to Thailand Up until, say 2017, southeast Asia level is what Thailand focused on and exceled at. Asia level" That is only your opinion but for FA Thailand, AFF Championship are minor tournament and AFC Asian cup are major tournament , FA Thailand focused on Asia major tournament with main players squad, i already explain to you before with reference.
- You said "Thailand move on but with only 4 points = the same with 2007 Asian Cup, but this time a little bit luckier" 2007 Asian Cup our team can't get to knockout round but in 2019 Thailand enough to move on to the knockout stage of the AFC Asian Cup for the first time in 47 years, why you said "just luckier to get to knockout round in 2019" it's not luckier because our player deserve to the knockout stage, our team has improve much, So the topic title should be about Rebuilding to achieve in Asia’s level
- 2. You said "Thailand’s progress in the Asian Cup isn’t big" but for FA Thailand 2019 Asian Cup is big move of Thailand national football team
- 3. You said "Thailand hasn’t shown much improve in Asia’s level." from performance Thailand enough to move on to the knockout stage of the AFC Asian Cup for the first time in 47 years, that shown Thailand improve in Asia's level from the past.
- 4. 2022 WC qualification, it still have 3 match for thailand national team to play
- 5. You said "The ranking is not a reliable thing to talk about a team’s performance." No, you have got it wrong. you shall go to learn from FIFA World Ranking system (2006–2018) wikipedia page, The ranking is a reliable thing to talk about a team’s performance.
- That’s why you can't use “THE DECAYING CROWN” for the title of content
February 2020
[edit] | This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet that was created to violate Wikipedia policy. Note that using multiple accounts is allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If this account is not a sock puppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:33, 11 February 2020 (UTC) |
Unblocking old account
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Trung tá Moore (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Hello. Sorry for using sock account but I have to because I cannot access my email (the email which I accidentally sent an UTRS ticket with with but since forgetting my email’s password I cannot access it). This is the sock account of the account Albertpda. I can’t access the old account’s talk page and not even my email so I have to use this sock. I want my old account to be unbanned/unblocked. :My account, albertpda, has been blocked (or banned) for a long time, more than a year ago. I think the block/ban is no longer necessary. The reasons for my block is warring edit and sockpuppetry. I haven’t edit on English wikipedia for a year but have been constantly editing on another language’s wikipedia channel and gained sufficient experiences. I won’t make the same infringements of policy and similar mistakes if I may get unblocked to edit on English wikipedia again. Sorry for having some edits with this sock earlier before seeking an unblock but i’m just lazy and eager to edit, and think that no one cared anymore.Trung tá Moore (talk) 16:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
The block on your original account is clearly valid. You prove this more and more, each time you set up an account to evade your block. Your only hope, and it's slim given your chronic abuse, is to go six months with zero edits and apply under WP:SO. Yamla (talk) 16:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Trung tá Moore (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Note: This unblock request is a continuation of my previous one which got denied by admin Yamla. Please read that request (my talk page) and this one to get a clear insight. :Reply to the decline of my unblock request, it said:”the block on your original account is clearly valid”. Well of course, it is valid, am i denying the faults?. Next: “... each time you set up an account to evade your block”. Yes, I set up some socks but that was 1 year ago. This particular sock (Trung tá Moore account) is a must because I cannot access my email (which one i erroniously, recently used the UTRS system with). Next, the unblock reviewer asked me ”to go six months with zero edits and apply under WP:SO”. Well, i have done that, not once but twice, not just 6 months, but 1 year straight. My account got blocked more than a year ago and I can confirm that I had not made edits (on the English wikipedia) for nearly 12 months. Except, however, I admitted that there are some recent edits made by me on certain articles with this sock but they are all constructive, not a big deal after 12 months and I’m not trying to evade the block. It’s partly because I can’t access my email (because of technical problems) to send unblock review for original account and was just lazy of waiting and eager to return to editing. :Im using this sock to get notice and seek an unblock review. I want to be unblocked because I have been blocked for too long now, more than 12 months. I’m not a danger and of course if i get unblocked, I will not make those mistakes again.Trung tá Moore (talk) 17:41, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You were using this account to edit as recently as last week, and at no point since you created it four months ago did you use it to make an appeal against your block - until, that is, you got caught. Evidently, we cannot trust you. Your edits with this account mean that the earliest date you may appeal under the Standard Offer is now August 11th, 2020. Yunshui 雲水 11:21, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
If you set up this account to seek an unblock review, you wouldn't have used it to edit articles and blatantly evade your block. You made approximately a hundred edits to articles. You made absolutely zero attempt to get your block lifted until you were caught. Come on now, stop assuming we are stupid.--Yamla (talk) 18:27, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Yamla, did you fully read what i said? I did not say I set up this account initally to get an unblock review, I said I use it later on to do that, and yes, it is after I was caught. I also made explain for those edits at the last part of that unblock review that you declined:”Sorry for having some edits with this sock earlier before seeking an unblock but i’m just lazy and eager to edit, and think that no one cared anymore”. You didn’t read that and assume that I avoid admitting the edits, did you? Very much sorry but I apparently had admitted it.
- ”...assuming we are stupid”? I think it’s the other way around, you are assuming me to be stupid. And about you? I did not “assume” that you are stupid. I never “assume” anything but instead I use belief. I believe that you are stupid because you seems failed to read thoroughly and comprehend stuff.
- Are couples of constructive edits (despite being sock edits) really a big deal to you? After like 12 months or so of me subjecting to that Standard Offer, does it matter much? By the way, I’m not trying to evade anything. If i really want to evade the block, I wouldn’t have let myself getting caught that easily. I was recognized as a sock only through a sentence written deliberately in my user page, which overtly present me as the sock of Albertpda.
- Getting caught is also the quick and smooth way to get noticed becaused Im not sure about the effectiveness of the other ways or the way you say, jumping into an admin’ page and tell the admin? Could have gone either fast or tremendously slow, bring further troubles and I don’t want to risk my time on that. Trung tá Moore (talk) 02:52, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
As you were maliciously editing previous comments to change what you said, I have revoked talk page access. If your current unblock request is declined, really your only path forward is to go six months with zero edits, then apply under WP:SO. At that point, you will need to address your behaviour here, including your deliberate attempts to mislead us. Six months from now is 2020-08-12. WP:UTRS will be available for you then, on this account. If you set up any other accounts (even if you make zero edits with them), that will reset the six month counter. And note you are banned, not blocked, because of your long-term disruption so you will have to follow WP:UNBAN at that time. No admin is free to unilaterally lift the block of a banned user like you. --Yamla (talk) 11:08, 12 February 2020 (UTC)