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Highway 60 (Israel)

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Hey TrickyH, you recently edited Highway 60 (Israel). Your edit leaves out an important fact. You say "...between Israeli settlements and the city of Hebron...". In fact, (unlike Highway 443 which was closed for many years to green license plates) Highway 60 is shared by both Israeli yellow license plates and Palestinian green license plates (usually courteously). So the road connects both Israeli settlements and Palestinian towns.

Moreover, you placed your edit in a paragraph describing the road's physicalities. There is an entire section where I think your point would better fit and even be expanded upon. The section "Bypass roads" (and this section's name could be changed) would be a place to discuss political issues. For example, further north, in the Samarian Mountains, there are frequent road closures. Closures do occur in the southern Judean Mountain section of the highway, but considerably less by far. (I think by a ratio of about 10:1) (need refs)

I am considering rewriting your edit and placing it in the paragraph dealing with political issues, unless you beat me to it. (I'm kind of busy for a while.) I look forward to discussing this option further with you. --@Efrat (talk) 08:46, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Efrat, I have revised my edit to make it clear that the highway services Palestinian communities such as Hebron as well as the Israeli settlements of the southern West Bank. I feel that this sentence should remain in the current section, as it describes the highway's route through the southern West Bank via Israeli settlements and the cities of Hebron and Bethlehem. You are correct in stating that the road is open to Palestinian vehicles; however, there are other issues such as the placement and access to junctions that restrict the movement of green-plated vehicles which could be expanded in the Bypass roads section. --@TrickyH (talk)
Your edit gives true information, but to be consistant, all the information must be given. Now, the following 2 sentences after your edit need to be reworked. ie. Once entering J'lem, the road only serves yellow plates. Then, north of J'lem, the situation reverts to that of the south (as, shown by your edit) until Jenin where the route is restricted to only green plates (and is not even officialy Route 60 pending final status agreements as detailed in the "Junctions" list), and finally at its northern limits to only yellow plates. Further more, all along the route, access at various junctions with Palestinian towns and Israeli settlements involve various restrictions and permissions.
I'm sure you will see, that at some point in the future, this entire discussion will grow to become a seperate paragraph immedately following a purely geographical discription of the route. Now that I think of it, why has no one ever written an entire article about Bypass Roads in the West Bank? And while we are at it, maybe something should be said about the economic cooperation between many Settlers and Palestinians in the West Bank (which in part is facilitated by the existance of shared bypass roads). It will be interesting to see how this develops. It seems that a simple article about a simple stretch of pavement may lead to discussions about many other issues! --@Efrat (talk) 06:49, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1RR

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Please be aware that all articles related to the Arab-Israeli conflict 'broadly construed' (WP:ARBPIA) are covered by editing restrictions. The restrictions are described in the 'WARNING: ACTIVE ARBITRATION REMEDIES' section on article talk pages such as Talk:Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions and include WP:1RR. You should be aware of WP:BRD too if you aren't already familiar with it. It is easy to trigger edit warring in the ARBPIA topic area because there are many advocates and nationalists. Sean.hoyland - talk 08:51, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resistance (socialist youth organisation)

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Hi TrickyH. Regarding your edits at Resistance (socialist youth organisation), firstly you added some sources from the official Resistance website. As you can see from the reference list in the article, 18 of the 22 references in the article currently come from either the Resistance official website, or Green Left Weekly and their youtube channel. Please read WP:PRIMARY. "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources..." The fact that this article has to rely so heavily on sources from it's own official publications gives the impression to the reader that Resistance cannot get much support or news coverage from outside its own sources; it's certainly not helping the article in any way. It would be a great benefit to the article if at least some, if not most, of those primary sources could be replaced with secondary ones.

The second problem I immediately see at this articles is all the references are bare URLs. Please read Template:Cite web and start formatting references using that template. As well as looking a lot tidier, formatting references this way helps to prevent link rot, as when a date, article title and author are specified it is considerable easier to search for where the url has moved to, or to find a mirror of it. If you are unsure of how to do this, here is an example: [1]. Freikorp (talk) 13:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'll look into secondary sources to further expand the article and reformat the references!

Self revert your edits or be reported.

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I have created a new section for Extrajudicial killings. Self revert your edits which violate revert rules. If not, I will report you. If there's an objection from two users on your sources, you should bring it to the talk page and not revert their edits. Among the things I removed, were things that are not in the right location of the article, suggestion unsourced claims, like for example that the death of alldged Palestinian assailent in 22 September was followed by an esculation but acually, the esculation occured in 1 October and sources in the article agree with that. So self revert your edits or be reported for breaking rules.

If you did not know, articles related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have a revert protection, users are restricted to 1 revert per 24 hours in those articles.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 21:25, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Even if Bolter were my twin brother and did say exactly what I thought (not the case), if someone takes such a tone (and violates the English language with such stubborn persistence), better ignore.Arminden (talk) 23:36, 5 January 2016 (UTC)ArmindenArminden (talk) 23:36, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Geography of the State of Palestine

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It's a bit funny to write about an as yet non-existent state, but I do appreciate your effort and joined in a bit. If only it would lead to a few users & editors taking a less one-sided stance... But I'm afraid it won't. Anyhow, I'm quite sure that the temperature tables need fixing. It is factually wrong to state that Jerusalem (7-800 metres above sea level) has higher average temp. in July-August than Jericho (some -400 m) and Gaza (Med coast, 0 m). Either the source is flawed, or maybe you combined several sources? Don't believe me, just check for instance similar data from Israeli sources on, say, West Jlm, En Boqeq and Tel Aviv. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 23:36, 5 January 2016 (UTC)ArmindenArminden (talk) 23:36, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, didn't notice that Jlm is the only one to have an additional line, "record high" or alike. I was comparing pears with apples. It still might happen to others, too, and the sources are indeed mixed, but there's nothing factually wrong there, sorry.Arminden (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2016 (UTC)ArmindenArminden (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No worries! I didn't add the data for Gaza, but Jericho and Jerusalem were copy+paste jobs. I welcome further contributions, there's lots more to add and I just wanted to get the page started with some substance. TrickyH (talk) 07:46, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

FYI and WP:BRD

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FYI, I opened a discussion about the importance of Palestinian wine for the Palestine project at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Palestine#Palestinian_wine. In addition, I would like to refer you to WP:BRD, which says, in simple words, that when reverted you should discuss first, and not simply repeat your edit. Debresser (talk) 16:53, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Slow down and read articles before assessing them

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Your ratings of both Nuaman and Muhammad Najati Sidqi are quite unfocused. There is no way in the wide world that the grading criteria 'Start' can be applied to either article. You are sequentially downgrading their quality. Get a third opinion when in doubt. Nishidani (talk) 21:23, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nishidani, I didn't rate either article on the quality scale. I'm working my way through the "Start" class articles with no "Importance" rating and focusing almost entirely on that, for the moment. You're right - I thought Nuaman was probably more of a C class as I read it over, but I didn't want to take too much initiative...TrickyH (talk) 21:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. But look at format uniformity, design, sourcing quality, links, etc, I never drive any article I mainly write towards some grading like GA, but if I do articles like those two, you can be assured I scraped the barrel of what is available concerning those topics, and the sourcing will be exhaustive, linked and of high quality throughout. By this, I don't mean to get you to alter your opinion. But the grading, if one clicks to the relevant information about what 'start' class means, is wildly off the mark. Regards. Nishidani (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I'll have a re-read and work on the quality too! TrickyH (talk) 21:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Noha Khalef

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WikiCup 2024 April newsletter

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