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We do assume good faith, and I hope we can be friends. I've been so ill I was hoping up till Monday of last week that if I tried distraction -like routine edit work my fever would break, but instead .. Also I didn't know where to reach you best since you hadn't begun a talk page here and you haven't enabled your wiki-mail (please do so- this is too long for talk pages and I think our talents might be a good match). I got ill and my body seized into a coma 3 years ago and still hasn't healed , etc.
When I returned to editing, I found that infobox photos on en.wikipedia feature photos often from long ago, instead of most recent ones, I guess to reassure readers that it's the person they recall. I try hard not to WP:OWN, but in Fischer's case, I went through hell to obtain photos of a Lisa that would be recognizable to both her early "foxy"solo fans, and those who saw her aging somewhat, gaining a lot of weight. The problem about long ago photos being featured up top goes against the grain with what I did before I was sick a couple years ago, where a relatively recent photo of good quality was in the infobox and then, the photos usually either followed the text chronologically, or at least the topics in the section. One thing that didn't change was that we didn't keep adding photos from the same event and/or photographer, which is why I removed your second photo. Can't we agree to leave the infobox pic I had there, and have one of your photos reflect the recent text? Please. Check what I've meant about people placing very old photos in the infoboxes in: James Taylor, Mick Taylor, Joni Mitchell, Michael Jackson, David Crosby, Graham Nash, etc. Except for James Taylor, all are my uploads, and all have more recent photos that are at least as good, in Commons, except Michael Jackson, I think. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 21:48, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Leahtwosaints. I hope you're feeling better. And thanks for clarifying, and no worries, I think we have the same goal here.
In my opinion, at least one photo, and preferably the first photo, should be something that will make the reader recognize the subject of the article. Something that confirms that this is the person they believe it to be, or if you don't know the artist it should be a visual introduction to the person. Whether it's a recent photo or an older one would depend of the subject, and I think that Lisa Fischer would be well identified with a photo from a few decades ago. The most important quality is that you can identify and recognize the person from that photo. I really couldn't care much if any of my photo's are in this article. But it's my opinion that the photo in this revision falls short of meeting the criteria for a good encyclopedia portrait photo. There's not much context in the photo, the angle to the photographer is so that the the facial features does not show very well. But it shows emotion and I guess that a reader that is well familiar with the artist would recognize the person. The other photo's of Lisa Fischer that is available on Commons are not much better, so I'm not really pushing any photo to replace this revision.
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