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Your submission at Articles for creation: Rebecca Rath (June 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chris troutman was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Wikipedia does not (to my knowledge) assume notability for being a beauty pageant winner. Further, I don't see evidence the subject is generally notable. Finally, this is an obvious puff-piece as this makes no attempt to discuss Rebecca's run-in with Opal and being stripped of her title. Wikipedia is not an advertising platform; we write what reliable sources say actually happened.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Chris Troutman (talk) 17:50, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I question your motives

I find your editing distasteful. Perhaps taking photos of your daughter and writing about her is best left to someone else. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:53, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So we're clear, I removed most of the text from Draft:Rebecca Rath because it was copied word-for-word from here. My edit summary indicates that. Wikipedia does not allow copyright violations. Each time you press the "save changes" button "you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL" so if the content is not yours, you've violated the terms of use of this website. Just because other articles talk about pageant winners doesn't mean the subject of this draft is allowable. If Wikipedia worked that way, we'd be in a continual race to the bottom. You need to gather more news sources to support the draft. What I object to is the prurient nature of what you're doing. It has no part in my rejection of the draft. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:20, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is how I reply. OK, just so I understand, I can resubmit after finding more sources and rewriting. Just FYI, that page you cited took the information from Rebecca's original submission to Miss Universe as a contestant, so it was our her words. Also, not sure what prurient means in this instance, not sure that is the right word. I know you are busy, so appreciate your responses.Tonyrath (talk) 20:16, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You claim it was "from Rebecca's original submission to Miss Universe as a contestant, so it was our her words" but we don't know that to be so. You might be right but newsamericasnow.com asserts copyright, as if she donated the content and they decided that they now own it. Because it's their website we assume they are correct. If she wrote the content for Miss Universe then they might actually own those words; I don't know. You could contact the website and ask them to label the article as public domain, which they won't do. You'll need to rewrite that content in your own words and then cite the website as a source. Honestly, if they're just publishing her words then it undercuts the website's usefulness as a source. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:28, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Rebecca Rath concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Rebecca Rath, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:34, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Rebecca Rath

Hello, Tonyrath. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Rebecca Rath".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:14, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]