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Happy New Year, Tol!

Happy New Year!

Tol,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 21:46, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 21:46, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, @Abishe. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 23:47, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Tol/Archives/2023,

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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Phony Ppl Page edits

Hi Tol, the previous header photograph on Phony Ppl's page was of random musicians, so I updated it to one of their approved recent press photos.

I am also trying to update their biography to include a passage about their new album but it seems that you had flagged it Colerech97 (talk) 23:51, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Colerech97. Your initial edit adding the new album was not worded neutrally; rather, it was promotional in tone, so I reverted it. I see that you have made another edit to add the new album, this time with neutral wording. Thank you for improving the wording. As for the image, your initial edit summary when changing the image was "Updated header image to more recent photo of the group"; this made me think that the previous picture was just an older picture of the group. Thanks for explaining this as well. Your edits after my reversion both look good to me, though I will note that Instagram is a self-published source, and an independent source would be preferred. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 00:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the insight! I just updated the source from Instagram to an independent source. Colerech97 (talk) 02:04, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Colerech97: No problem! Most content on Genius is user-generated content (and hence unreliable) (and something like a news article on the album's release would be best), but it should be fine to support general information about the album. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 06:39, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from ColdHeight1 (17:06, 7 January 2023)

Hello Tol, I am a new Wikipedia member, and I would like to ask you a question about citing a source that is often subject to controversy on this website.

I would like to modify a certain part of a Wikipedia page (Nauru Police Force#Vehicle) because adding a wikitable and sources to this part would be the appropriate thing to do in my opinion.

However, my main source regarding the modifications I want to make is the Facebook page of the official institution that is the topic of the Wikipedia page. The Facebook page seems very reliable (https://www.facebook.com/NauruPoliceForce).

Should I go ahead and use Facebook as a source? It is the only source at my disposal so to speak, unfortunately. (Sorry for my English by the way) --ColdHeight1 (talk) 17:06, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @ColdHeight1, and welcome to Wikipedia! In this situation, I believe the Verifiability policy § Self-published or questionable sources as sources on themselves would be applicable. It states that (emphasis in original):

Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they are published experts in the field, so long as:
the material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim;
it does not involve claims about third parties;
it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source;
there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; and
the article is not based primarily on such sources.
This policy also applies to material published by the subject on social networking websites such as Twitter, Tumblr, LinkedIn, Reddit, and Facebook.

So, as long as you follow those five points, using the Nauru Police Force's Facebook page as a source of information on its own vehicles should be fine. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 05:31, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kalischild97 (06:44, 8 January 2023)

Aloha!

This seems complicated. All I wanted to do was to add "Belgian Malinois" to the page called "list of dog breeds." I was looking for it and noticed it was missing from the list.

Mahalo! --Kalischild97 (talk) 06:44, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Kalischild97, and welcome to Wikipedia! Perhaps the help page on editing would be useful. To add an entry to the list, after navigating to the page, scroll down to the correct section (in this case, "A–C") and click the "edit" button next to the section header. Then, scroll down in the edit box to the correct place to insert the new entry in the alphabetically sorted list, and add it. Then, click "Publish changes", and you'll have edited the page! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 05:43, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from .Clydsmith (14:08, 12 January 2023)

What is this site all about --.Clydsmith (talk) 14:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @.Clydsmith, and welcome to Wikipedia! Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia. You can read more about it in the general introduction for visitors or in the article on it. If you're interested in contributing to Wikipedia, the new contributors guide or tutorial might be useful. Please let me know if you have any further questions! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 03:06, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mehchris (18:32, 14 January 2023)

hi, am new over here. will help me get started with wikipedia. i will love to write an article --Mehchris (talk) 18:32, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Mehchris, and welcome to Wikipedia! The tutorial can walk you through the basics of contributing to Wikipedia, and you can find information on how to write your first article here. Please let me know if you have any further questions! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 05:45, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Auk lak on Draft:Vuk Lakićević (23:34, 20 January 2023)

Hi, I was trying to make wiki page and I submitted request 1+ month ago but still nothing, so i will be happy if you can chech my references and fix if something is not correct --Auk lak (talk) 23:34, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Auk lak, I'm unsure on whether it established notability, but the neutrality issues led me to decline. You can see more explanation in the decline message on your talk page. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 04:53, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Wolfie385 (22:57, 22 January 2023)

Are you a robot? --Wolfie385 (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, @Wolfie385! I'm another Wikipedia editor, not a robot. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 00:03, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]