User talk:Tishtosh20

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Hi Tishtosh,

Just a comment - CFS is a very contentious area of wikipedia (and there's many others to chose from). In order to understand the reason for some of the ongoing disputes and to contribute in a way that helps the project overall, I thought I might point to a couple policies and guidelines you will doubtless see cited on the talk page, and why I think they're relevant:

WP:MEDRS - CFS is a medical topic. As a result, the sources used must be highly reliable. For the most part, only peer-reviewed medical journals are acceptable as sources. Exceptions are in history, society or controversy sections, where non-medical sources tend to be quite invaluable (but still require reliability, so newspapers rather than blogs).
WP:UNDUE - all articles must place emphasis on the topic to the same degree that mainstream groups place upon it. In other words, if only patients believe CFS should be called ME, then it is appropriate to cite this briefly in the body of the article, but it is not appropriate to re-name the page "myalgic encephalomyelitis" since most people don't call it that.
WP:SOAP - wikipedia is not a place for advocacy. We can report on advocacy if documented in reliable sources, but the page should be informative rather than promoting.
WP:V - information must be verifiable. It is rare that you can simply write something on the page and have it stay; exceptions are very commonly known things - the sky is blue (generally), fire is hot (except for certain types lit by alcohol), and salt is salty.
WP:OR - we can't use original research here. In other words, read all the definitions of CFS out there and say one is better, or this one is missing this bit, or that the WHO definition is the same as the CDC. We can't do it, but we can cite other people who do so, provided it's in keeping with the other policies - we must be able to verify it, in a relialbe source, and discuss to the degree that it's discussed and believed in mainstream circles.

Thanks, there's lots more P&G to read, but these are probably the ones that you'll run into the soonest. WLU (t) (c) ^{(rules - simple rules)} 18:33, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page guidelines

Hi TT20,

Please review the talk page guidelines - it discusses how to arrange talk page postings for maxiumum readability. Basically the most relevant thing is threading - indent each new post with a colon (:) which the software automagically turns into a five-space indentation. Like this: First post
:Second
::Third
dot-dot-dot
:::::::::Tenth post
Undent, restart from the beginning.

Which renders as:
First post

Second

Third

dot-dot-dot

Tenth post

Undent, restart from the beginningg

This and other fascinating information can be found on an essay I wrote for new users - you may find it interesting. WLU (t) (c) ^{(rules - simple rules)} 13:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative names for chronic fatigue syndrome

Hi, since you have previously shown an interest in the topic of CFS, this is to inform you that I have started an attempt to resolve a long list of existing disputes on Alternative names for chronic fatigue syndrome. You are welcome to participate. Guido den Broeder (talk, visit) 21:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Changes made to Professor Kenny De Meirleir test entry on main CFS Page

Hi, I think this should be opened up for debate on the CFS main talk page first. Just start a new section there and see what other editors think. If there is a consensus then by all means re insert the edits. I think the citation concerning the Professor Kenny De Meirleir test has to be peer reviewed before it would be relevant in the main article. Best wishes.87.114.144.251 (talk) 09:28, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote. This has already been discussed on the talk page..can be found here.[1] 87.114.144.251 (talk) 09:47, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mary Rae

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Hi! You might wish to also check with Tim1357 (talk) since he tagged the article for deletion, but when I looked over it, it seemed that the article was about someone who studied music with various teachers (none of whom have Wikipedia articles), had compositions performed by various musicians (none of whom have Wikipedia articles), edited a publication (which doesn't have an encyclopedia article) and had a book published (by a publisher which doesn't have an encyclopedia article). I'd recommend having a read of Wikipedia:Notability (people) and considering the general criteria "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Wikipedia receives immense numbers of new contributions every day and it's really important to clearly state why the subject is sufficiently notable to justify an encyclopedia article. --Stormie (talk) 00:09, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tudeley

What was wrong with my addition of the Tudeley treacle mine? It is well-known folklore that there was a treacle mine here, along with those at Tovil and Frittenden making up the Kent mines. Addition was referenced, and it has been mentioned in the local newspapers over the years. Yes, I know it's ficticious, but the entry was reliably sourced. See the Treacle mining article for more details. Mjroots (talk) 14:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Melatonin

Do you know if it is just 'Circadin' which is available in the UK, or other preparations as well? Circadin has been approved in EU. --Hordaland (talk) 18:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 07:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've rearranged the article so as to put the most important stuff first. Imagine that someone will only read the beginning of the article. Which part will do more to convince such a reader that Cmdr Stagg was notable -- that he attended Charterhouse School, or that he planned Operation Claymore? (That said, it's generally good work. Write more articles!) DS (talk) 13:54, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notability?

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I'm not sure if this meets notability requirements:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tishtosh20/sandbox

Advice please? Tishtosh20 (talk) 11:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have access to the Probation Journal, but the other sources only mention her in passing and don't contribute towards notability. If these are the best sources available, then I don't think Neervoort is notable. Huon (talk) 12:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Per WP:GNG I don't think there is enough significant coverage in secondary sources on the sandbox page indicated. If more secondary sources that discuss mainly the person or their accomplishments could be found it would help. Ward20 (talk) 23:18, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Matilda Hays

Hi Tishtosh,

Thank you for your interest in Matilda Hays. Unfortunately, I returned the information from her parents that I gleaned from WP:Reliable sources because the information that was provided came from genealogy sites - which is not a reliable source - particularly if it's from personal websites. (There are exceptions for a few peerage sources that are deemed reliable based upon the quality of information.)

If you can find some information from a book or other reliable source, that would be good... I just had a hard time finding it previously and that's why I'm doubtful. (See this query.) Some times, that's the way of it, if we cannot find good substantiation it's better to leave the information out.--CaroleHenson (talk) 01:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you have access, though, to the Orlando site at Cambridge University - there is a section "Birth and Influences" that just might be the ticket!--CaroleHenson (talk) 01:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am assuming that you are the person (User:89.243.55.219 for the IP address) who posted a response to this on my talk page based on the way it's worded. Since your user name (page) is a red-link, I am not sure if the {{ping}} will work - so I wanted to let you know I responded on my talk page.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Patricia Fenn (March 26)

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