User talk:TimSeber

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I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! Them From Space 08:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Themfromspace:

Greetings to you. I would like to address a few points in regards to the "External Link" in question: http://wellofwishing.com/ that you recently removed from the "wishing well" article page.

1. The external link existed on the article's page for 3 years and was only recently removed by the user "Flopsy Mopsy and Cottonmouth". I was restoring the link that he/she removed.

2. The link in question demonstrates the look and functionality of a real wishing well. How does that not "lead to a greater encyclopedic understanding of the article's subject"? It's a virtual wishing well that shows people what a wishing well looks like and how it works. It's the same way that any multimedia-based encyclopedia would use video & animation. It's not a "game", as you stated.

2b. I would point to the external links section of the "steam engine" article for similar links, for example: http://www.animatedengines.com/

3. Regardless of my username's age, I'm not a new user to Wikipedia or even new to editing.

4. I have never financially benefited from the website in question.

5. This being a community-based site, I'm not sure of the authority of "Flopsy Mopsy and Cottonmouth" to remove a 3-year-old edit out of the blue. I tried to engage him/her in a civil discussion about the matter but he was adamant in his ways and beliefs (and seemed purposefully rude). Although I appreciate his effort to police the site from irrelevant content, there is another thing that can kill Wikipedia, and that is the lack of civil discourse. From that perspective, he may be doing more harm than good.

TimSeber (talk) 04:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My authority, if you want to call it that, is that I follow the rules. The fact that ThemFromSpace agrees with me shows that I'm following consensus. I wasn't being rude. I was being direct. You repeatedly ignored what everyone said to you and made it clear that you didn't want to hear anything said by anyone that disagreed with your opinions. Over and over again you added in an external link that doesn't follow our rules for the inclusion of such links. I attempted to explain things to you in the talk page of the article, but you basically ignored me and ThemFromSpace. Flopsy Mopsy and Cottonmouth (talk) 23:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]