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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ottavio Rosati (March 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Cabrils was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Well done on creating the draft, and it may potentially meet the relevant requirements (including WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, WP:CREATIVE) but presently does not. As you may know, Wikipedia's basic requirement for entry is that the subject is notable. Essentially subjects are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. To properly create such a draft page, please see referencing for beginners or the article Easier Referencing for Beginners. Please note that many of the references are not considered reliable sources and should be removed. Additionally, the draft tends to read too much like a CV (which Wikipedia is not) and too much like an essay, and not in the style of prose appropriate for an encyclopaedia. Please familiarise yourself with these pages before amending the draft. If you feel you can meet these requirements then resubmit the page and ping me and I would be happy to reassess. As I said, I do think this draft has potential so please do persevere!

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Cabrils (talk) 22:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TimR22! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Cabrils (talk) 22:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Cabrils, I will simplify, I have a bit of difficulty understanding which sources are reliable, but I will try to study them.

Ottavio Rosati is an independent, but is extremely well known worldwide. I will do my best.

For now, thank you very much.

One question, how long do I have to find sources before the draft is canceled? TimR22 (talk) 10:27, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good one. In my comment above you can click on the link to "reliable" to see how Wikipedia defines "reliable sources", including that sources should be independent of the subject. So for example, given Rosati Director of the IPOD - Istituto per lo psicodramma ad orientamento dinamico, materials sourced from its website http://www.plays.it/ipod/ need to be handled with much care. Wikipedia is not LinkedIn or a site on which to host a person's personal biography, which is how the draft presently reads to me. I do think the draft has good potential but requires some substantive pruning of content that cannot be properly cited via reliable sources. Please absorb my suggestions and I encourage you to amend the draft accordingly and as I said, I'd be happy to reassess it. Also don't hesitate to ask any questions, I'm happy to help.

Drafts last 6 months so you should have ample time!

Cabrils (talk) 21:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Ottavio Rosati

Hello, TimR22. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Ottavio Rosati, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 12:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Ottavio Rosati

Hello, TimR22. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Ottavio Rosati".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I try to write you on TALK page of Ottavio Rosati.

I'm not expert. I trying to learn...

Thanks for your time TimR22 (talk) 10:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 2024

Hello TimR22. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to User:TimR22/sandbox, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:TimR22. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=TimR22|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. The statement on your userpage says "Appointed by Plays Srl Italy to compile the biographical page of Ottavio Rosati." This is ambiguous and suggests that you are either employed by Plays, or have been contracted by them to write about Ottavio Rosati. Please clarify your relationship with this company. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Drm310 thank you for the details. I’m not paid to write these pages; I’m a researcher working on psychodrama and psycho cinema, contributing voluntarily. Could you kindly provide me with the instructions to use the correct format? Many thanks.TimR22 TimR22 (talk) 15:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drm310 I also wanted to mention that I corrected the page because it had been rejected. I worked with other colleagues to develop a more encyclopaedic format. If I understand correctly, this is only a draft. However, I received a message stating that my page was being deleted because I hadn't made the necessary modifications. Perhaps I’m unclear on the process. Apologies, but how can I edit the draft if I’m unable to make changes? TimR22 (talk) 15:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]