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This week's article for improvement (week 51, 2015)

The word scandal is used a few times in several bibles like Douay–Rheims Bible. Hello, Thparkth. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Scandal Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Princess Leia • International law Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 01:25, 14 December 2015 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thanks for User:Thparkth/autopatroltest I've started using it to find people I can appoint as Autopatrollers. ϢereSpielChequers 13:15, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank-you very much, I shall wear it with pride. Thparkth (talk) 13:26, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2015)

Hors d'oeuvre, also known as an appetizer or starter, is a food item served before the main courses of a meal. Hello, Thparkth. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Hors d'oeuvre Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Scandal • Princess Leia Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:08, 21 December 2015 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

This week's article for improvement (week 53, 2015)

File:Kissinger Man of the Year.jpg Henry Kissinger was a Person of the Year when he was chosen as Time Person of the Year in 1972 along with with Richard Nixon. Hello, Thparkth. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Person of the Year Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Hors d'oeuvre • Scandal Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:10, 28 December 2015 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

Removal of Speedy Deletion template on ArcaBoard

Hi Thparkth,

I see you removed the speedy deletion template that I placed on ArcaBoard. Looking at your profile and rationale for such deletions, I must say that while I think I may still disagree with you on this issue, you seem a reasonable fellow, and certainly a more prolific Wikipedian than myself. So with that in mind, I'm curious if you agree that the page should be deleted per WP:SELFPROMOTION, just not speedily (i.e. not without discussion and consensus)? Or do you think the subject could meet notability requirement based on the few bits of tech coverage it has received? Speedy deletion seemed the most reasonable course to me because of the specific editor in question, who appears to work for the company that produces the ArcaBoard. So whether or not the article's contents justify calling it self-promotion, it is literally a case of that, or at the very least a WP:COI problem. Thoughts? Juansmith (talk) 17:31, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

• Hi @Juansmith:, thanks for the note. It's nice to have some human contact now and again, isn't it? I'll be happy to give my opinion on the questions you have asked. Bear in mind that I am not an administrator, just another asshole with an opinion, and I am frequently wrong.

I am absolutely certain that the user in question is in a conflict-of-interest situation and needs to tread very, very carefully. You probably noticed that I left them a talk page message to that effect, which they did acknowledge.

In my opinion, the fact that an editor is in a COI situation is primarily an editor conduct concern rather than an article concern. A well-sourced, neutrally-written article about a notable topic is an asset to the project, even if originally created by a COI editor. On the other hand, it is possible for an unconnected editor to write a gushingly promotional article which should be deleted. (Of course it would be fair to say that not everyone agrees with me on this, but I think the majority do).

In the case of the article we are discussing, I feel that it is adequately sourced, reasonably notable, and really not written in a very promotional way. Mostly the article just states what the product is and does, with a bunch of technical specifications. There isn't any of the grandiose marketing fluff that is seen so often when doing new pages patrol.

So in terms of whether I agree that the page should be deleted per WP:SELFPROMOTION, the short answer is "no", and that's because (as far as I recall anyway) nothing in the whole COI guideline defines a situation where articles should be deleted. Put simply, WP:COI is not about article deletion, it is about editor conduct. If an article is a problem, it is dealt with through the usual processes for dealing with problem articles.

If you feel that the COI situation around the article's creation justifies deleting it, then that certainly is a valid opinion (albeit one that I don't share in this case), and obviously AfD would be the place to take it. Because there aren't really any other major problems with the article other than the creator's COI, I would be surprised if there was a consensus to delete it. But I am often surprised at how AfDs go, so who knows :)

Thparkth (talk) 18:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)