User talk:Thomas R. Eddlem

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Thomas R. Eddlem. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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I understand this potential conflict of interest. But there's clearly no use of linking to a non-Libertarian Party state party on a page that lists state affiliates of the national Libertarian Party. Please edit out the clutter. Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 02:44, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Especially if you will not let me do so. Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 02:44, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The link says "Formerly, the Libertarian Association of Massachusetts was affiliated with the national Libertarian Party," purely for explanatory purposes. Thank you for bringing to our attention that you are now Acting Chair. List of state parties of the Libertarian Party (United States) has been updated to reflect this. 25stargeneral (talk) 02:46, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What needs to be done to get the Libertarian Party of Massachusetts -- the recognized affiliate of the national party -- it's own Wikipedia page?

I'm seriously asking this question. I don't want an edit war. I just want our party to have a page and for it not to auto-redirect to the party which is not the state affiliate. Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 02:57, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for asking. One, you can't just copy a bunch of text from the Libertarian Association of Massachusetts page. The history there belongs to that article. Two, you need to cite a sufficient number of news articles covering your party that demonstrate it is a notable topic. The other party meets that bar because of the news coverage of its candidates. 25stargeneral (talk) 02:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll help you out with this. Please follow the WP:AFC wizard, it'll take you through how to properly set up the article. 25stargeneral (talk) 03:02, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1. You say " history there belongs to that article." It doesn't. Most of the material is from national party results. But that's fine. I would take it all out if that satisfies you.

2. " you need to cite a sufficient number of news articles covering your party that demonstrate it is a notable topic. " How many news articles do you want? I could cite 20 or more, but don't want to go through all that work if it means all my effort would be negated in a nano-second. Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 03:03, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please follow the WP:AFC wizard. It'll allow you to write in in a draft and submit it for review when it's ready. 25stargeneral (talk) 03:04, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But you didn't answer my question. How many news articles must I cite? Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 03:05, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Reason article you cited also mentioned the Massachusetts controversy. And you insist upon putting it on an index page.

' Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 03:06, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AFC will walk you through the process, but the full requirements can be found at WP:NORG. 25stargeneral (talk) 03:08, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RE "The link says "Formerly, the Libertarian Association of Massachusetts was affiliated with the national Libertarian Party," purely for explanatory purposes."

What is the explanation needed? This page is simply a link to state parties. No other party has such "explanatory purposes." Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 02:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Reason article cited documented a split that is worth explaining. LAMA was the affiliate since the 70s. 25stargeneral (talk) 03:00, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You do know that I'm the chairman of LAMA. Sure, the other group says they're LAMA too. But Wikipedia has kept this information entirely off its site. Is there no way to put up a LP of Massachusetts site? Thomas R. Eddlem (talk) 03:05, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted the link twice and I'll post it again. Go through WP:AFC, it'll ensure you can create an article that is up to standard and won't get deleted. 25stargeneral (talk) 03:07, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

December 2022

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Libertarian Party of Massachusetts. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. 25stargeneral (talk) 02:54, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]