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Spelling of name

Your draft title has Bonte followed by an apostrophe. I think you want an accented e. Is that right? I changed it in the lead sentence, will fix it in the title if you agree.--SPhilbrick T 22:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC) Thanks again to you and Orange Mike for your comments. As to conflict, this guy is my ancestor, but I think he might be interesting to others, especially those intreested in UC history. As to the hagiography issue, I did try to avoid hero worship and tried to present a balanced portrait. I frankly was not sure what I would find. I did find a man of courage and principle who made some mistakes but never padded his own pocket. The 'honorifics' are statements that have been made about him, and there are more, ex. he was 'fanatcially dedicated' to the tax scheme, this from the University historian. He had 'control' issues apparently. He was prone to bombastic pronouncements, which was the nature of the times and part of his character. As to using 'full name' (I think Mike means using his initials, I did that for the sake of variety and if accepted style is to use last name only, that's fine. He did refer to himself and was referred to as "Dr. Bonte'" even though it was just an honorary degree. Sometimes he used all his titles and initials, "The Rev. Dr. J.H.C. Bonte'" but that doesn't matter much. So go at it.[reply]

Ready to move, just need to clarify spelling of name

I've cleaned up the draft a fair bit, although I urge you to check my edits, just in case I changed something inappropriately. It still needs some work, but I think it is ready to move to article space, subject to one question—can you confirm that the correct title should be John Harmon Charles Bonté, rather than John Harmon Charles Bonte'? If my guess is correct, I will be happy to move the article for you, and fix all the spellings within the article. Of course, you can move it if you want, but I'll do it if you aren't sure how to fix the final letter. I'm also interested in working with you to improve some of the references, but I have a rather intense few days at work for the next three days, so cannot promise anything until Thursday at the earliest, and more likely the weekend. This looks like it will be a fine addition to the encyclopedia, and I'd like to help. If you respond in the next few hours (you can respond here, I'm watching your page) I'll do the move this evening, otherwise I'll check back later in the week.--SPhilbrick T 22:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After clearing up the Bonté problem, you need to go after the tendency to hagiography: as well as the tendency to use his full name instead of just his last name; the frequent gratuitous honorifics; and the general mid-Victorian pompous tone, as of a tribute to a founding father. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it needs work Mike, but if you compare the version just before I started work on it, you can see I've spent some time on it. I've done mostly gnomish work so far, will address some of the hagiographic language soon.
@Thomas - I haven't seen any responses from you this evening - and I'm logging off soon. Will check in during the week if I can, but it would be good to wait until I can spend a little more time before moving it. Mike is right that there are quite a number of remaining issues, and we ought to clean many of them up before exposing this to the glare of the new pages patrol.--SPhilbrick T 00:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ATTN S. PHILBRICK: Thank you for your comments. An the accent is supposed to be above the 'e' so that is a good fix; I just didn't know how to do it. This is all an experiement, I hope that this serves to respond to your note. I will review the draft again and will look for your changes. I did add referenes and revise a sentence to avoid the pomposity, but this was a pompous guy. T BONTE

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