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File source problem with File:Tullio Francesco DeSantis w.jpg

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The artist still remains the (c) holder of the image in question unless he has specifically (and best, in writing) released all rights of it. Either way, the best way to prove the (c) claim is to follow the instructions found at WP:OTRS - follow the link and have him (not you) send the e-mail regarding the (c) status of the image in question. Skier Dude (talk) 23:37, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

All has been completed, photo uploaded.Thisandthem (talk) 02:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Cheetah & Cubs Lying on Rock.jpg

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Nick Brandt

Nice work on the Nick Brandt article.

As for the images, of course best of all would be if you could get Mr Brandt to unconditionally release rights to the images you want to use. But this is rather a big ask of a professional photographer.

If that is not forthcoming, and you have to go down the fair use path, you can probably reasonably use one image to try to better communicate the artist's style. The key policy here is WP:NFCC #8, with its test that showing the image must significantly add to reader understanding. It's not absolutely essential, but the fair use case would be strengthened if you could find external reliable sources discussing Mr Brandt's style, references to which would illuminated by showing a representative work (or a discussed one).

Beyond one image, if you don't have what WP would regard as a full enough release, fair use justification gets progressively harder. You might just about get away with two, if they were strongly contrasting with each other in what they show of Mr Brandt's work, particularly if you could find external references presenting this contrast as important.

For better or worse, we are probably significantly more restrictive on what we will use as fair use than, say, an art-criticism article on a living artist's style (or even a book review) in a photography magazine. But, when really justified, it is not completely forbidden. Jheald (talk) 12:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I will see what I can do. Brandt is in Kenya for the next five weeks, might have to wait for his return. But in the mean time I will research reviews and articles. If I have questions do I just leave them on your talk page or here on mine?Thisandthem (talk) 16:13, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I have tweaked the fair use rationales a little; this should be quite sufficient. There shouldn't (I hope) be any more difficulties, at least for these two photographs.

Probably this is as far as things need to go. It's worth keeping in mind that despite Mr Brandt's co-operation, these images - at least as presented at the moment - are not what Wikipedia considers "free"; and that when Wikipedia asks for a "free" license, that is quite different to the kind of licence that Mr Brandt would grant to, say, a magazine running a piece on him. When Wikipedia is asking for a free licence, it is asking for a complete release of all rights in the image (at least at this resolution), not just to Wikipedia but to the whole world - so that anyone would be able to use it, as readily as clip art, for anything they wanted, and do anything they wanted with the results. It would be lovely if Mr Brandt was prepared to give the world that, but I suspect his publishers and print-resellers would have a fit.

So that's what to bear in mind, if you think there's any further you want to take it. Jheald (talk) 20:12, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!Thisandthem (talk) 17:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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My principal concern had to do with referring to him as "Jay" in the article body; while you certainly might do that in a promotional profile on his own website, in encyclopedia-style writing we need to refer to people by their surname. Bearcat (talk) 02:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:The Rip Off Review 2nd Edition.jpg

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Now resolved - Thanks :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

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Rip-Off review

Article needs a lot of work on it... And BTW Ideally you should use the first issue cover as the infobox image..

If there were only 3 issues, then you might want to put thumbnails of all 3 issues side by side.. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I know it needs more work, I have some ideas of improving it. Really wanted to get the basic's down first. I didn't know you could do thumbnails side by side. I will give it a try. Thank you for your input.Thisandthem (talk) 01:36, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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Geraldine Arata

Quote. Yes, You can add back the quote. Any quote must have a reference right after it. The 1st paragraph is an introduction for the entire article. Sometimes a quote maybe relevant to have in the introduction. But, I don't think it is the case her. Add it back into the article where you think it should go.

Reference. The reference should pertain to what is being discussed and about the subject. So, a reference for Arata attending Skyline College should show that she actually attended and not just the main webpage of the school. The same goes for the other deleted references. There are times where the main page of a website is appropriate... say the President of a University. Except, the link to the University would go into a separate section called "External links".

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Sources

Blogs are rarely acceptable as sources, especially in a WP:BLP. Read over WP:NEWSBLOG. Also read over WP:NOR: reliable, published sources have to be "directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material as presented." On just a quick scan, references 6 and 53 do not seem to mention the subject of the article at all. Check all the references per WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:BLP. Also keep an eye out for WP:PRIMARYSOURCES use, there seems to be a few examples of that in the article at present. Dreadstar ☥ 19:54, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, looks like I have a lot of revisions to make. Primary sources, can you point a least one out to me so I can better understand them. I have read it, but it's still a little confusing to me. I'm going to go back to all the articles I have created and revise a few things. :) Still learning. Thisandthem (talk) 14:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Looks like reference 48 is a primary source, it's just a youtube video of them talking, yet it's used to form a conclusion. I can't see reference 47, but that's a secondary source and can be used if it mentions the sisters. Dreadstar ☥ 18:39, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, 48 and 47 does not lead me to anything useful. So I will remove.Thisandthem (talk) 03:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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Neat! Thank you for your help!Thisandthem (talk) 10:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

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Okay I agree, will see if I can get a different image.Thisandthem (talk) 14:11, 14 April 2012 (UTC)