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Re: mentorship
Lets start :) 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Great! The process starts with you picking out a DYK nom or hook (as described on your talk page) and telling me what you think. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 10:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- By way of example:
- Example, on the Main Page right now, has a BLP problem in its hook because x, y, and z. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 11:01, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Here's my review of Example2, an unapproved nomination:
| General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Is a travel blog a reliable source? - Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Too many closely paraphrased sentences, per Earwig.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - Mm, I'm not sure why I'd click on this article.
| QPQ: None required. |
Overall: 
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 11:01, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will start a bit later since I'm editing Tropical Storm Pakhar (2017) and fixing it.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗11:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)- Done! I'll instantly start (I'm really excited lol)
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗11:41, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done! I'll instantly start (I'm really excited lol)
Reviews
- Here's my review of Mały Brzostek, a nomination created by a new nominator:
| General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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| Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
- Interesting: - All of the hooks don't seem interesting, all of them are normal for old towns due to a lack of documentation.
| QPQ: None required. |
Overall: The main problem is about the interest, please fix that. I can't access the source so I'm Accepting the source in good faith. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not too shabby! Gonna need a while to get back on this, as I have a few other things on my plate, but looking forward to kicking this off in earnest. :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 12:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Uh oh, just noticed another person already reviewed the article. It's okay though.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗13:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Uh oh, just noticed another person already reviewed the article. It's okay though.
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WikiCup 2024 November newsletter
The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is 
AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, 
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The final round was very productive, and contestants had 7 FAs, 9 FLs, 94 GAs, 73 FAC reviews, and 79 GAN reviews and peer reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).
Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
- Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
- Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.
Technical news
- Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068
Arbitration
- RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.
Miscellaneous
- An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
Pronunciation of GIF
Hello! Hope you are doing well. I've recently translated your featured article Pronunciation of GIF into French and I've been told that the first sentence of the second paragraph in "Arguments" section seems to have nothing related to the rest of the paragraph since Casey Chan doesn't mention frequency analysis in his article. I think that it is true so I've moved the sentence, in the french version, to the end of the first paragraph so it can make more sense but I want to know if it is really a mistake or is there a reason I don't see. L'embellie (talk) 15:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Bit of a mental health break
Stepping back from projectspace/my inbox for a short bit to process what's in the news. Then I'll be back to coordinate some fixes to the new recall process, get GalliumBot back up and running, respond to messages, etc. Stay safe, everyone 
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:34, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
As long as no one notices...
... the log entry for Voorts... :-p Primefac (talk) 21:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Trout theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Ewa Ligocka's goose
The source for Ewa Ligocka's goose uses the same wording for the story about another mathematician winning a goose as a prize (for which we have photographs!) as for Ligocka cooking the goose. There is no reason to treat this merely as a rumor; it is labeled as an anecdote. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: there's no reason for both sources to report it as a "story" or "anecdote" unless they didn't know it was true firsthand. this is basically lighthearted hearsay. we can call it something other in a rumor, but it can't stay in wikivoice. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- They are not reporting it as something they are not sure of. They are reporting it as something true but incidental to the life of the person they are writing about. The story of the goose prize itself is widely documented and accepted as true (again, photograph!). This is additional detail from the same story, reported as equally factual.
- Additionally, elaborating on the true or false nature of the story destroys the whole intended double meaning of the hook, a play on the phrase "to cook one's goose" where the joke is that in this case the meaning is literal rather than metaphorical. If we state it in a way that makes it clearly intend the meaning to be factual but at second hand, then there is no joke any more and no point to running that hook. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: Saying "another anecdote says" she was the one who cooked it is another way of saying "I've heard someone say this is true, but have no way of verifying it myself". Anecdotes, as I believe you've pointed out before, can't speak. It's a way of attributing to another source, and a vague one at that. And this source isn't fact-checked or editorially controlled, it's just a mass email. Would you be okay with adding "according to an anecdote" to the hook? I understand it ruins the punch a little bit, but the sourcing is already very shaky. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I said above and will say again: describing the ontological status of this statement, in the hook, destroys the point of the hook. If you refuse to run a hook with a point, I think it is better not to put boring pointless hooks into DYK at all. DYK hooks are not the place for pedantic elaboration, as you should already know. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- All right, well then, pulled. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- For the record, I don't think it "destroys the point of the hook" at all. You lose the pun, but i think cooking another mathematician's goose is still interesting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the remaining point left, after removing the joke, is: when a group of Polish mathematicians needed some kitchen work done, they selected a nearby young woman to do the work, without regard to her mathematics. Is that the point you wanted to make? —David Eppstein (talk) 23:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I think that's a strange takeaway from the story itself. Someone with a doctorate in mathematics kills and cooks a coworker's goose, and the only takeaways from that are wordplay and gross sexism? You wouldn't be the least bit curious why a university math professor slaughtered and cooked her coworker's goose? Seems pretty interesting to me, and it was interesting to the person that sent out that email blast, too. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:18, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the remaining point left, after removing the joke, is: when a group of Polish mathematicians needed some kitchen work done, they selected a nearby young woman to do the work, without regard to her mathematics. Is that the point you wanted to make? —David Eppstein (talk) 23:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I said above and will say again: describing the ontological status of this statement, in the hook, destroys the point of the hook. If you refuse to run a hook with a point, I think it is better not to put boring pointless hooks into DYK at all. DYK hooks are not the place for pedantic elaboration, as you should already know. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein: Saying "another anecdote says" she was the one who cooked it is another way of saying "I've heard someone say this is true, but have no way of verifying it myself". Anecdotes, as I believe you've pointed out before, can't speak. It's a way of attributing to another source, and a vague one at that. And this source isn't fact-checked or editorially controlled, it's just a mass email. Would you be okay with adding "according to an anecdote" to the hook? I understand it ruins the punch a little bit, but the sourcing is already very shaky. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I didn’t read the phrasing as casting doubt on the veracity. Innisfree987 (talk) 01:24, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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