User talk:Thedarkknightli/Archive 16
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Complaint at WP:AN3
Hello Thedarkknightli. Please see my closure of the complaint you filed at WP:AN3 about Vanessa Bryant. In my view the claim of Filipino descent for Vanessa's mother may not have support from reliable sources. Can you look at this again and see what you think? The IP's edit summaries are legalistic but I am wondering if the IP may be correct about the underlying issue. Any needed discussion can occur at Talk:Vanessa Bryant. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:55, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Darknightli. I've reduced the article protection to semi, but the claim of her Filipino descent seems incorrect. Per WP:BLP it shouldn't be restored to the article without a reliable source. The Cupcake Magazine reference has disappeared from the web, perhaps due to a request from Bryant's representatives. See here for the closure of the edit warring report and notice the comments by the IP about Cupcake Magazine. EdJohnston (talk) 19:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
February 2024
Hello! We talk before reversing. You probably knew that here but didn't seem to care. Sad to see. My Wikipedia work is to provide the reader with good info, not to get my way no matter what. Yours should be too. SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you!
Thanks for all your contributions on the Ang Lee page! Rionat (talk) 00:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Male actors by city or town in Switzerland has been nominated for splitting
Category:Male actors by city or town in Switzerland has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:55, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Michael Fassbender parentage
Greetings. You reverted the edit abt parentage in the Michael Fassbender article from "German-Irish actor" to "German and Irish actor," invoking MOS:NATIONALITY. The examples provided in that guideline are about persons bosn in place A and then emigrating to B and making a new life there, i.e. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Peter Lorre. Fassbender, however, does not fall into that category, hence my edit. Fassbender has an Irish mother and a German father. Therefore, the appropriate notion should be Irish-German (or German-Irish). Why would we use "and" in such cases? From what I can recall, the practice in Wikipedia is the equivalent of "Irish-German." Remarks? -The Gnome (talk) 11:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @The Gnome, Fassbender identifies as Irish and holds German citizenship so I thought it was fine to say "German and Irish". Hyphenated terms should generally be avoided when we describe someone's nationality imo. However, I admit discussion is definitely needed so feel free to restore your edit before we reach a consensus.
- Regards, Thedarkknightli (talk) 12:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. I don't think we can avoid, nor should we, the hyphen: Italian-American, Greek-American, and so on. (Well, the hyphen was exiled altogether once but that was for a movie title!) The hyphenated notation is still standard in almost all media. By the way, is there in nationality/ethnicity something analogous to how we denote gender in Wikipedia? I mean, is the issue decided by as what one identifies? This is a tricky area. -The Gnome (talk) 18:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- @The Gnome: Not sure about that (cuz my knowledge is limited tbh). As for his nationality, I suggest omitting it in the lead sentence and explaining later (e.g. "... is an actor. Born in Germany to a mother from Northern Ireland and a German father, he relocated to Ireland at age two ...") as we've already done in Elon Musk, Tina Turner, Russell Crowe, etc. I think this is a better way cuz, you see, we can only prove his German citizenship but Germany doesn't seem to play a big role in his identity. Thedarkknightli (talk) 20:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- We have no way of knowing what attribute, if any, MF considers to have "a big role in his identity." We know for a fact that MF has a German father. This is irrevocably one half of his parentage. Even if MF were to denounce his father's nationality or something similar, that fact does not change. So, I cannot see any reason to try and get around something trivially established as true: Father of X nationality and mother of Z nationality. The standard practice is to introduce the person by its nationality, as simply & briefly as possible, in the lead section. (I think you are looking for something new in WP BLPs, something you believe is an improvement. You might be right but this is not the way, i.e. article by article, to change established practice.) -The Gnome (talk) 10:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well, sorry for being impetuous (again). Thanks for your time, @The Gnome! Anyway, I’ve taken this issue to the article’s talk page. Thedarkknightli (talk) 18:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- We have no way of knowing what attribute, if any, MF considers to have "a big role in his identity." We know for a fact that MF has a German father. This is irrevocably one half of his parentage. Even if MF were to denounce his father's nationality or something similar, that fact does not change. So, I cannot see any reason to try and get around something trivially established as true: Father of X nationality and mother of Z nationality. The standard practice is to introduce the person by its nationality, as simply & briefly as possible, in the lead section. (I think you are looking for something new in WP BLPs, something you believe is an improvement. You might be right but this is not the way, i.e. article by article, to change established practice.) -The Gnome (talk) 10:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- @The Gnome: Not sure about that (cuz my knowledge is limited tbh). As for his nationality, I suggest omitting it in the lead sentence and explaining later (e.g. "... is an actor. Born in Germany to a mother from Northern Ireland and a German father, he relocated to Ireland at age two ...") as we've already done in Elon Musk, Tina Turner, Russell Crowe, etc. I think this is a better way cuz, you see, we can only prove his German citizenship but Germany doesn't seem to play a big role in his identity. Thedarkknightli (talk) 20:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. I don't think we can avoid, nor should we, the hyphen: Italian-American, Greek-American, and so on. (Well, the hyphen was exiled altogether once but that was for a movie title!) The hyphenated notation is still standard in almost all media. By the way, is there in nationality/ethnicity something analogous to how we denote gender in Wikipedia? I mean, is the issue decided by as what one identifies? This is a tricky area. -The Gnome (talk) 18:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Seamus
Re [1], please go ahead and do the honours...ie if its acceptable add four or five major works, but leave out the awards. We can haggle about which works to include over the next few decades, but I think this should resolve the "dispute". Talk then. Ceoil (talk) 18:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Danish male writers by century
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✗plicit 14:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Nina Dobrev
Hi Thedarkknightli, please have a look at the message I've left you on the Nina Dobrev talk page. I believe there's a discrepancy between what the MOS policy states and what seems to be the status quo on Dobrev's page. If there's no discussion I'll be bold and make the change. Cheers, Anthony Whitaker (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Assuming page ownership
So. I say you reversed my edit. And claimed I own the page when I don't. Not going to say a whole lot as I don't want to fight it again. But that was me two months ago. And I do not want to see that. I've moved on. I'm more focused on Wikipedia pages on drivers from different type of racing series in Motorsports. MadBlade 2 (talk) 21:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
But Olga Kurylenko did play Antonia Dreykov / Taskmaster in Black Widow (2021). And she is reprising the role in Thunderbolts* (2025). 51.171.59.155 (talk) 23:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)