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About the Catalan pronunciation of Puigdemont
[edit]Hi! You wondered why /d/ lenited to [ð] after [dʒ] in Catalan. The sound [dʒ] is affricate, and the last part [ʒ] is fricative, so continuant. Thus in contact with [d] it turns it fricative too: [ð] --Enric (talk) 18:26, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Enric: Thanks for your replying!!
- I still wonder isn't it should be seen as a whole affricate which isn't a continuant? Following what you said, /b, d, ɡ/ are also lenited after /ts, dz, tʃ/?
- And may I ask you if /b, d, ɡ/ are lenited after /l, ʎ, r, ɾ/ (except /d/ after /l, ʎ/)? The article Continuant says "Whether laterals, taps/flaps, or trills are continuant is not conclusive."... The fairy Nishikori (talk) 21:32, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Answer is yes. Examples:
- [dʒ] + b, d, g = mig buit [half empty], haig de llegir [I must read], Puiggròs; but in mig, haig or puig not in contact with a voiced consonant, [dʒ] is pronounced [tʃ]: [mitʃ], [atʃ], [putʃ]
- [ts] + b, d, g > [dz] because the next consonant is voiced = pots venir [you can come], tots dos [both], plats grossos [big dishes]
- [tʃ] + b, d, g > [dʒ] because the next consonant is voiced = despatx blau [blue office], capritx diví [divine whim], cartutx gruixut [thick cartridge]
- /b, g/ after /l, ʎ, r, ɾ/ are also lenited: alba [dawn], alga [seaweed]; coll blanc [white collar], pell groguenca [yellowish skin]; carbó [coal], margarida [daisy] (/r/ in final position may be pronounced [ɾ] or [r])
- /d/ after /r, ɾ/ is also lenited: ordre [order], mar de fons [swell] --Enric (talk) 00:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Enric: A detailed answer! Thank you so much! :) Could I ask some other confusion?
- Catalan_phonology#Phonotactics only says "Word-final fricatives (except /f/) are voiced before a following vowel; e.g. bus enorme [ˈbuz əˈnormə] ('huge bus')." What about word-final stops and affricates before a following vowel?
- Is your surname pronounced [fumˈbilə] or [fundˈbilə]?
- Do you know how to pronounce the two e's of Sergi Darder, [e] or [ɛ]?
- Thanks again! The fairy Nishikori (talk) 08:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi!
- Word-final occlusives /b/ (àrab ['aɾəp] 'Arab'), /d/ (fred [fɾɛt] 'cold'), /g/ (mag [mak] 'magician') are pronounced [p], [t], [k], as final /p/ (pop [pop] 'octopus'), /t/ (gat [gat] 'cat'), /k/ (foc [fɔk] 'fire'). If all these sounds are followed by a vowel, the pronunciation is the same: [p], [t], [k]. Word-final affricates are only [ts] and [tʃ]; when they are followed by a vowel or a voiced consonant, they become voiced: hi pots anar ('you can go there') [i 'pɔdz ə'na], un despatx ample ('a wide office') [un dəs'padʒ 'amplə]
- My surname is pronounced [fɔm'bilə] because is a compound, derived from font [fɔn] ('fountain') and vila ['bilə] ('town'). Compounds keep their stressed vocals and don't neutralize them.
- Sergi Darder is pronounced ['sɛɾʒi δəɾ'δe]
--Enric (talk) 19:41, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
March 2019
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