User talk:The Kinslayer/Archive 3 24/01/07 - 09/02/2007

Brown Grand Theatre?

Just curious why you remvoed the Brown Grand Theatre from the List of haunted locations ... your comment says "Theres no mention of it in the article, and no sources to justify it here." but if you had read the article, you would find "According to theater lore, Earl's ghost haunts the theater, especially during the "opening" season."[1]

So my question is, do you want more information, or what?--Paul McDonald 19:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

My apologies, I missed that single sentence in the page and a half article. The Kinslayer 08:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you removed the message that I left you (interested parties can check it out under the page history), noting the change as "Removing patronising bullshit." It wasn't intended to be that way--I was just merely asking you to be more careful with your editing and deleting, especially when you admit you haven't read the articles or know your facts.--Paul McDonald 01:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't put words in my mouth either. What I said was that I missed the sentence when I read the article. Strange as it might seem, the history of the theatre didn't interest me, so it's reasonable that my brain had swithced off before I got to the single sentence I was actually looking for. Anything else I've said you wanna try and twist? The Kinslayer 08:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Nope.--Paul McDonald 04:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

{{db-repost}}

I realize that the Ecoprofit article had been speedily deleted (and it's both spam and non-notable), but the repost criterion is for articles deleted through discussion, like articles for deletion, not speedy deletion. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, the Admins who have deleted similar articles I tagged with repost after they were recreated from a speedy delete didn't have a problem with it, so I think I'll go with their opinon, not yours. The Kinslayer 14:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Well look at that, looks like I was right again. The Kinslayer 14:36, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why you're being so stubborn about it, the criterion clearly states that it's not for speedy deletion reposts. Just because I'm not an admin doesn't mean the criteria for speedy deletion page is wrong. Also, they probably deleted it with that tag since it most likely still fell under the original criterion, not the repost criterion. And sorry for starting this in the middle of your page, that was a mistake. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Here, look at the deletion log. It was deleted as spam again, not as a repost. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:40, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Regardless, it was tagged with a repost, and no admin thought that it was worth mentioning on my talk page. Ergo ipso facto, I will continue use it. Discussion over.The Kinslayer 14:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't be surprised if someone looking to use the proper tag changes it as they should. I guess that's all there is to say. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree with Leebo, as an admin I would have to search for a non-existing deletion discussion, which would create extra work. Agathoclea 11:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

England or United Kingdom?

Hi. You moved the section for England on the List of haunted locations down to United Kingdom. I don't have a problem with that per say, but I was wondering if that ment you were going to combine the entries for Scotland and Ireland with that for the United Kigdom as the UK includes all of Scotland and part of Ireland, or are you going to leave them seperate? If you are going to leave Scotland and Ireland seperate, then I think we should change it back to England. If you're not going to leave them seperate then we'll have to watch where Irish stuff goes. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm in favor of merging them, after all, America is grouped together rather than individual states and it seems more correct to have UK instead of a fractured England, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Incidently, I think it's about time Wales was introduced to the list as well! The Kinslayer 16:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. Just wanted to make sure it would be consistent. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Should be finished now. I made sure I checked each of Irelands entries so that I only merged Northern Irelands. The Kinslayer 16:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Bobby Mackey's on List of Haunted Places

I re-added Bobby Mackey's Music World. I can understand why you might have mistaken the reference for the tabloid National Enquirer, but it's the Cincinnati Enquirer. The Cincinnati Enquirer is the largest newspaper in Cincinnati, Ohio. --~Nealparr~ ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 04:39, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

And now for something completely different from an idiot...

Dude, you're t3h ghey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.24.10 (talk • contribs)

Welsh

Just saw that you are Welsh... surely there must be room for a Welsh sport to be included in the Non Olympic Games article :-) Politis 15:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No, your list is pointless. And don't try to get round my opinion on your pointless list by using my nationality.The Kinslayer 15:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. It looks like a difference of opinion. I refer you to my suggestions at the talk page. Politis 15:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

All things considered, no objections re: deletion. Politis 18:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:COI

Couldn't remember the article name so just posted it under that. I understand that it is a conflict of interest but i'm just wondering why the tag is necessary? It clutters the page up anymore and provides no real relevance to the case... ScorpO 12:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I like using them, lets the User know we're on to them and watching them carefully. It also alerts other people reviweing deletion requests that it's not just a case of someone finding a page missing and attempting to create out of a desire to improve wikipedia, and that it could be a concerted attempt at advertising/vanity. I'm finding it quite useful personally. The Kinslayer 12:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification ScorpO 12:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

New pages patrol

Hi, thanks for your work tagging unsuitable pages for deletion. One thing you might want remember is to add the appropriate warning messages to the talk pages of the users who create those pages. Whenever you tag a page for deletion, there will be something at the bottom of the pink box that says something like, "Please consider placing {{subst:Nonsensepages|pagename}} ~~~~ OR {{subst:nonsensepages|pagename|header=1}} ~~~~ on the User Talk page of the author." This will inform them that the page they made is up for deletion, and it will (hopefully) encourage them not to make anymore inappropriate pages. Thanks again for helping out on Newpages, a lot of useless pages get added every minute, and we need all the help we can get to tag the bad ones. GhostPirate 16:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The Trial of Mary Dugan

The novel was written by Wiliam Almon Wolff, published in 1928 under Doubleday, Doran & Company, INC. Garden City, New York. The novel consists of 35 chapters and deals with murder, sexual deviance, and other explicit themes for the time period.

The book was adapted for the sceen in 1941, The Trial of Mary Dugan (1941) stared

*Laraine Day ....  Mary Dugan 
*Robert Young ....  Jimmy Blake 
*Tom Conway ....  Edgar Wayne 
*Frieda Inescort ....  Mrs. Wayne 

..To name a few.

This is not nense. If you wish to check the validity of this novel and its description, please either purchase or borrow the novel from a local library or store. This novel was considered to explicit and far to deviant for the time it was published. Adapations have been made to dispense with the inappropriate material.

Once such adapation is described as follows:

• In this well-executed courtroom drama, a Broadway chorine is accused of stabbing her wealthy boy friend to death. The girl is defended by her good friend. During the trial, the lawyer refrains from cross-examining the witnesses. This enrages the dancer's younger brother, who has just passed the bar exam. Her friend suddenly drops her case and allows her little brother to take over. In the end, it is discovered that the girl was a golddigger who used the money from her affairs to finance her brother's expensive education. This does not stop the younger brother from building his case and eventually proving her innocence. Thanks to him, the real killer is exposed and justice prevails. ~ Sandra Brennan, All Movie Guide

A university of Toronto adaptation was written by Lorrie Gilsten in the Classic Literature Department and was transformed into a play staged at Bader Theatre, U of T in 2004. The Adaptation recieved a mixed review but non the less was deemed a success.

I will be resotring the article, and expanding it later on today. If you have an issue with this, I invite you to consult me on my Talk page. I appreciate your candour in this situation, but I advise to in future, research your accusations before posting them. -- Andreas Thursday, 2007-02-08 T 10:09 UTC

My aplogies, the fact that a 1908 novel was claiming to feature a 1956 pop artist led me to believe it was nonsense, but you've cleared that up now. A suggestion though: Make sure wikilinks link to appropriate and not random people. The Kinslayer 10:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I appologize for the mistake, it was a mere typo of mine. I realized it as you posted the complaint. I will correct and improve the validity of this article in a few hours. However I must leave, and would appreciate if you would recall your speedy deletion request from the article. Much appreciated. Once again, I appologize for any misunderstanding and encourage you to pursue false material posted. Good day.

Already done. Happy editing! The Kinslayer 10:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Elemis

Hi I added the article for Jan Kusmirek instead of the Elemis page as you requested. It highlights his skills and the books he has written on the subject of aromatherapy

Ha, I'd just left a message there when you left this one! Books are good, People who have published books are usually fine when it comes to notability, but like I said t=on the pages discussion, finding media mentions for the person never hurts! The Kinslayer 12:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Superelite says...

I was very disappointed to read that you considered my work to be "nonsense". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superelite (talk • contribs)

Then try posting something that isn't patent shite then. The Kinslayer 13:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

What the fuck would you know geek boy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superelite (talk • contribs)

More than you ever will bigjobs. The Kinslayer 15:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

About gigobytes and motherboards I can believe. And possibly Goblins. Your knowledge on the Real Hippies however, is clearly infinitessimal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superelite (talk • contribs)

<sarcasm> Oh that was so hurtful. </sarcasm> The Kinslayer 15:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

How many kins have you actually slain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superelite (talk • contribs)

Who gave you the rank of superelite? Bit of a grandiose claim isn't it? The Kinslayer 16:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

It is self-appointed, but nobody has ever bothered to dispute it. You didn't answer my question

I know. The Kinslayer 16:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Starrett City owners

Clipper Equity LLC just became one of the largest landowners in New York City. This is an ongoing story that may include issues of affordable housing and government subsidies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lpgeffen (talk • contribs) 14:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC).

Tag placement

Would you please consider handling page from new editors a little less harshly? Sometimes it's better to calmly explain the policy violations than to dump a mountain of confusing tags on a fresh editor. It should be discussed with him how he has gone wrong, rather than applying every known template. Just a suggestion. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a babysitter. Even a retard should be able to master clicking on a blue link in the tag to see what the tag means, and if they can't master that, fuck em.The Kinslayer 14:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

That's true, you're not a babysitter, and no one is asking you to be. But as a new page patroller it's important to consider how your actions will be perceived by the new editor. Handling the situation tactfully can both rid Wikipedia of the inappropriate content and bring in a new editor who is not downtrodden but newly endowed with policy knowledge. Please also review WP:CIVIL. If your approach to new page patrolling is simply to scare away the poor contributors, you may want to rethink why you do it. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't care less if editors walk away after their latest 'W0)T I PSOTED ON WIKI HI MUM' page is deleted. The Kinslayer 14:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

That's why I pointed you to WP:BITE above. Wikipedia cares, even if you don't personally, which is why I asked. The page I was referring to, the Oneside band article was a simply copy/paste violation, and you applied about 8 different tags to describe each individual violation. That's confusing, and the editor shouldn't be bombarded like that. After that, he blanked the page, and the likelyhood that he'll return to contribute positively is reduced. I want editors who have contributed poorly to contribute well, which is why I recommend this strategy. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's a wild idea. You do it your way, and I'll do it mine. If I violate a policy then the admins can haul me over the coals. The Kinslayer 14:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't hurt to ask. I hope that eventually you'll handle these situations as Wikipedia recommends. Leebo⁸⁶ 14:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't hold your breath. And one last thing, WP:AGF applies to people judging editors who have been here a while as well as newbies. The Kinslayer 14:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

If you're implying that I didn't assume you were acting in good faith, then I guess I misinterpretted "fuck 'em" with reference to helping newbies. Leebo⁸⁶ 15:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Always gotta have the last word haven't you. The Kinslayer 15:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)