User talk:TheSmartOne2019

Sockpuppet investigation

An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Renamed user 2560613081, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.

Jasper Deng (talk) 06:46, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've blocked you for breaching WP:SCRUTINY. This is with no prejudice to Bbb23 converting it into a CU block depending on his CU findings. You may read WP:GAB to appeal your block. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:13, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

TheSmartOne2019 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hello. I have been blocked because I am found to be none other than User:Extremecia. And they have assumed that it is a policy violation. In truth, TheSmartOne2019 is a Clean start of Extremecia. I followed the instructions of that policy to the letter: # Extremecia had no outstanding blocks or bans # I put a Retired tag on the Extremecia user account # Ceased using it # Waited enough # Created and started using this account TonyBallioni did pressure me to disclose myself. In fact, I was doing so. He did not wait for me to finish. From his accusation to prejudiced conclusion of guilt, it took a very short time. (16:21 to 17:21 UTC) I had to consider whether TonyBallioni's request is valid because of the following part of the policy:

If you are not under Arbitration Committee sanctions, you are not required to notify anyone of your clean start.

I had to consider whether it is okay not to tell him, despite his insistence. After all, does a CU have the right to demand to know it in violation of the policy? Anyway, I never got around to think it through. Please note that not only I did not avoid scrutiny, I openly told TonyBallioni about my connection to Wikipedia. Extremecia itself is an alternate account, created with full knowledge of ArbCom. TheSmartOne2019 (talk) 18:42, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The SPI related to this case includes compelling evidence that this account does not meet WP:CLEANSTART, including the not unlikely possibility that you are Codename Lisa. As admins cannot review the disclosures you made to Arbcom, I don't see how the block can be appealed here. As noted by TonyBallioni, the appeal will need to be made to Arbcom. Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:06, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@TonyBallioni, -revi, and Bbb23: TheSmartOne2019 (talk) 18:48, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extremecia is currently blocked indefinitely, rendering a clean start impermissible. I'm still certain you are the same as (ex-)Codename Lisa, which also renders this abuse of multiple accounts since you may not avoid even potential scrutiny of your past behavior, which naturally arises when you a.vanished under a controversial situation and b.you draw attention to it by suggesting you've been here before.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:04, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extremica had no outstanding blocks when the clean start commenced. The CU was never allowed to block it in the first place.

And like I said, Extremica is an alternative account that has ArbCom's blessing.

TheSmartOne2019 (talk) 19:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot unblock you (I have no ability to do so), so you don't need to ping me. — regards, Revi 19:43, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyBallioni, -revi, and Bbb23: TheSmartOne2019 is a clean start. Extremecia is a WP:SOCKLEGIT with ArbCom preknowledge. If you continue to defy ArbCom, you risk losing your reputation and CU rights. TheSmartOne2019 (talk) 19:48, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Declaring accounts to arbcom is not a free pass, and doesn't preempt sanctions for other multiple account abuse. Don't attempt to WP:WIKILAWYER your way out of this, it won't work.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:54, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am not degnifying that with a counter. Wikipedia will remember what you wrote here today. And one day, you will have to answer for it. TheSmartOne2019 (talk) 20:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first time you’ve ever mentioned declaring to ArbCom and you had multiple opportunities. I’m also not entirely convinced this qualifies as a clean start, and based on what Bbb23 has said, you’ve abusively edited logged out anyway. If you’ve declared to ArbCom, you should appeal to them. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:47, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyBallioni and Ponyo: Today, you banished an honest user. Guess what you are left with? Liars, edit warriors, vindictive people, and sockpuppets, who are wise enough not to be honest with you. I hope you'll find them good company. Wikipedia is now beyond redemption. Maybe it is all a divine blessing telling me to stay away from this place forever. TheSmartOne2019 (talk) 21:36, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I never banished anyone. I declined your appeal because it relies on private evidence you provided to Arbcom and directed you to appeal there. Please don't ping me again.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to hide your previous identities here in an illegitimate way is anything but "honest".--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:42, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've revoked TPA.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:08, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

TheSmartOne2019 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

UTRS appeal #26063 was submitted on Jul 24, 2019 04:26:23. This review is now closed.

--UTRSBot (talk) 04:26, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]