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February 2023

Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that one or more recent edit(s) you made did not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or to provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits, an adequate summary may be quite brief.

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Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account you can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting Preferences → Editing → Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary, and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:31, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, at the moment I started working on the article "Kyrgyz Khanate". During the week I am going to improve the article and add additional information. Th3Shoudy (talk) 15:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You still need to use an edit summary. Persistent use of no edit summary can be seen as disruptive and can lead to a block. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:23, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet that was created to violate Wikipedia policy. Note that using multiple accounts is allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If this account is not a sockpuppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 00:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal

Let's be clear, I am not the same person with Cianzera, we know each other by sight, I did not vandalize the Russian Wikipedia, I added reconstructions to the Wikimedia Commons and improved the "Кыргызский каганат"[1] page in every possible way. They blocked me by mistake, thinking that I was someone else's account. Please note that, unlike Lauriswift911, I did not write nationalistic and offensive slogans, I always worked on articles in good faith. In the articles, I ALWAYS indicated the source, ALWAYS followed the rules of decency, unlike some users. Yes, I edited the same articles as Lauriswift911, but this is because we both work in the field of the History of Kyrgyzstan, not because I am whose puppet, but as I said above, I worked more conscientiously and did not belittle anyone. I am ready to undergo a full review under the supervision of administrators and please pay attention to this. Rosguill

You're welcome to request an unblock per the instructions in the template above. Before you do so, I would advise you to read WP:MEAT and be prepared to address whether or not your past edits count as meatpuppetry. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I sent a request, thank you for your reply. Th3Shoudy (talk) 00:43, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for disturbing, but several days have passed since the moment of sending my request, do you know how many days applications are considered? Th3Shoudy (talk) 16:52, 13 February 2023 (UTC) Rosguill[reply]

It looks like you did not follow the instructions correctly: per the notice below, you seem to have filed a UTRS request, which is only for when you have also been blocked from editing your user talk page. The instructions you should have found at the linked page are: To make an unblock request, copy the following text to the bottom of your user talk page: {{unblock|1=Insert your reason to be unblocked here ~~~~ _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just sent a request, thank you for your prompt response.🙏 Th3Shoudy (talk) 17:05, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS appeal #69440

is closed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:34, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request to unlock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Th3Shoudy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I ask you to reconsider your decision, as I said earlier I am ready to pass all necessary checks and prove that I am not Cianzera's sockpupetty user. I admit that I worked with him jointly on articles somehow related to Kyrgyzstan, but please note that, unlike him, I observed all the rules of decency, did not offend anyone, and so on. In the articles I worked on, I ALWAYS cited the sources, I did not engage in vandalism. I have nothing more to say, I hope for your fair decision. Th3Shoudy (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You're Confirmed to a few other accounts, including FrederickTheGreat3 and Turkic.centrist. I'm willing to give some other accounts the benefit of the doubt, but those two are pretty blatant. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:49, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

The Turkic.centrist account is not mine, it is another person and my friend (I am ready to prove it). I acknowledge that I used the FrederickTheGreat3 account, but please note that I did not vandalize through this account and did not edit the articles that I worked on on my main account. I ask you to pay attention and reconsider the decision🙏. @NinjaRobotPirate: Th3Shoudy

As proof of my words, I will give you this. Turkic.centrist and I make historical content on Tiktok, Turkic.centrist account is "tun.uqu", mine is "based.qyrgyz". I spoke about the FrederickTheGreat3 account earlier and please note that I did not undertake acts of vandalism from it. In addition to these accusations, I ask you to voice others so that I understand what I have violated and try to give some kind of answer🙏. @NinjaRobotPirate: Th3Shoudy (talk) 01:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk) 01:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

As the blocking admin I'm not going to review the request myself, but I would ask that you provide a bit more of an explanation of the extent of your collaboration with Cianzera's accounts--how have you communicated with them, how did you decide to edit particular articles, and what will you do going forward if unblocked? _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:17, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in the history of Kyrgyzstan as well as the Cianzera, I started working on Wikipedia relatively recently, mainly I worked on articles of the List of wars involving Kyrgyzstan, the Kyrgyz Khanate and the Kyrgyz Confederation (this article was deleted), as I mentioned earlier, I tried to do it according to the rules Wikipedia and always indicated the source. However, I sometimes had some complaints about Cianzera, I asked him not to offend anyone and observe the rules of decency, as this put me at risk. If they unblock me, then I will continue to work in the field of the History of Kyrgyzstan, and maybe the Turkic peoples.Th3Shoudy (talk) 17:29, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do not find the above explanation persuasive as far as explaining the extent of collaboration and communication with Cianzera. I can provide additional details to a reviewing admin regarding why that is the case via email, but will not post them here due to WP:NEEDTOKNOW considerations. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:45, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't deny that I worked with Cianzera, I want to prove that I am not his sockpupetty. I am ready to be under the supervision of admins in case of unlocking. Th3Shoudy (talk) 17:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Again, sorry to bother you, how long does it usually take to process an appeal? It's just been 3 days Rosguill Th3Shoudy (talk) 01:23, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It typically takes a few weeks. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 01:24, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I didn't know. Thank you again for your prompt response. Th3Shoudy (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good day. I have a question, if I provide my personal data - full name or will social networks be able to confirm that I am not sockpupetty Cianzera? Rosguill Th3Shoudy (talk) 09:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, such information is generally not desired in investigations of sockpuppetry. Moreover, my current perspective is that you may not be the same person as Cianzera, but have nevertheless been inappropriately colluding with them, which would make your personal data irrelevant. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:24, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you stopped calling me sockpupetty Cianzera. I plead guilty to Meatpuppetry and hope I don't get permanently banned. Th3Shoudy (talk) 17:31, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]