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I formatted it for you. Everything you write seems to show up in the code boxes. Whenever I edit what you write, there's always a space or two before your text (i.e. " Blah blah blah"), which seems to be what's causing the problem (if I remove it, there are no boxes). If you add the spaces intentionally, then stop doing so if you don't want the boxes (which are very annoying since they extend off the page). Otherwise, it's probably a problem with your browser. Try maybe posting your replies and then immediately editing them to remove the space if you can (that is, if they actually show up to you when you edit).

Yom 17:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, my Ethiopian brotha, I REALLY REALLY appreciate your input into the Ancient Egyptian debate. You know why? Because YOUR people actually have a connection to Ancient Egypt, unlike most Afrocentrists, who are almost always West African descended. You know maybe Alek Wek or Jon Doe Beja should have gone to the 1981 UNESCO conference instead of Chiek Anta Diop, eh? Because hey, as far as genetics, archaelogy, and tradition (Land of Punt) goes, all roads lead to Addis Ababa.(laughs to himself as he looks at the saying parody) Get back to me. Peace.

I really apologize for not responding to your comment on my user talk page earlier. It was during the middle of exams and I sort of forgot about it later. While it's cool to know that ancient Egyptians probably looked similar to me and Nilotic Africans, I can't claim Egyptian history. Egypt's history is the world's history thanks to its many contributions (and "luck" in having such a preserving climate) to the world. I do think it's important to make clear Egypt's origins to counter the damage of racism in the past regarding history, though. Maybe if today's scientists knew more about the genetic variation among blacks they would be more able to see that. I'm starting to learn more about Punt, and there's some cool info about it. There's a lot of archaeological work to be done still. Only 3% of Axum is excavated so far, and that's by far the most excavated site in Ethiopia! I notice you haven't contributed much in a while, but I hope you come back. I know you have useful info on the Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians article. Peace. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk • E 05:54, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, what's up. Peace in Amharic is just "selam," like in Arabic (in Ge'ez, which is like the Latin of Ethiopia, it's "salaam," exactly as in Arabic). You should probably chill out at the controversy page, as people will be less respondent to your edits. The article is going to be split into two - one for discussing the historical controversy (which deeceevoice will probably be working on a lot, I don't know much about it), and another for the "Origins of the Ancient Egyptians," which will focus on current thought regarding archaeological findings. I noticed that you mentioned Keita, which is good, because I was planning on using him a lot, along with similar scholars for the construction of the "Origins of the Ancient Egyptians" article. I'll have to do a lot of research, but I'm guessing that you know something about it too based on your citation of Keita. It's no use crying over split milk, so do you want to help out with the new article? To be completely honest, I like the direction it's going. Before there were just tons of edit wars. Now, with the split, the "Origins" article can focus on modern thought, while the other can focus specifically on what historical arguments were, rather than making a claim as to the race of the Ancient Egyptians one way or another, which would result in a ton of edit warring. Peace.

Oh yeah, and the 3% of Aksum I've seen various places, but the only source I've been able to find says 7%, which is here (I had to look for a source for Aksumite currency on that). Sucks, but it also means there's a ton about to be found (some have described it like Athens before all the discoveries in the 1880s &90s or like Egypt in the 1920s). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 22:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your concern over the Controversy over racial characteristics of Ancient Egyptians article, but I need to ask you to please be civil. There are people who are working hard to make that article of an acceptable quality, and harsh attacks is counterproductive to that. If you're knowledgable on the subject, that article (which, as you've seen, is undergoing a major rewrite) could use another expert. But please make your contributions civil and respectful. Thanks. - Che Nuevara: ^{Join the Revolution} 09:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: extremely african

I mean that compared to sumer, akkad, ebla, asshur, elam, hattusa, et. al., etc., Egypt has more indiginous african traits. Obviously it will be so, since it is geographically african. However, it is not purely african by any stretch of the imagination, and egyptologists of high credibility will state clearly that the pharaonic monarchy adapted some particularly sumerian and elamite traits. Redford in particular has a good deal on that in his "Egypt, Caanan, and Israel in ancient times." Now, as to causing problems, I am actually attempting to broker some sort of peace by expanding the scope of the article away from the american notions of whiteness-blackness. I will not, however, compromise factual accuracy to keep peace. Thanatosimii 19:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the first disagreement between a wikipedian and myself as to the compotency of certain egyptologts. Redford is one of the most prominent, well argued, and well published egyptologists alive today, and I've never heard of Keita before. So I searched for him, and found an article by him, which calls him "a biological anthropologist and physician with interests in human variation in health and disease, skeletal biology, aspects of developmental biology, and the use of a range of data in the construction of historical narratives in ancient African societies." Um, he's not an egyptologist. Now, If you are going to make such wide, sweeping statements about refusing to believe anything one of the leaders in egyptology has said, I am not going to argue with you. As I said, this is not the first time I have argued about good egyptologists, and I see no point in continuing if you refuse to listen to anything written by anyone besides those who share your view. You have fundimentally missed the point of argument.Thanatosimii 23:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keita may not have a degree in Egyptology, but he is a physical anthropologist, so when it comes to the biological affinities of Kemites, I wouldn't dismiss him.Achillobator

Re: your message, I was talking to Thanatosimii, not you. Now while I appreciate the affectionate intent, please don't call me "babe", sir.