User talk:Tayyabrazams

Recent edits

Hello my friend. I hope you are fine. You do not appear familiar with Wikipedia's key policies and guidelines. In particular, Wikipedia requires citations to reliable and authoritative third-party sources. Two good sets of Wikipedia guidelines that I have found really useful can be found HERE, regarding verifiability and HERE, regarding the need to maintain a neutral point of view. Best regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 05:25, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 2023

Hello, I'm 331dot. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Minhaj University Lahore have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 08:52, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 331dot,

Thank you for clarifying the source of the information and for your diligence in upholding Wikipedia's standards. I apologize for any misunderstanding in my previous responses. I completely understand that the information I provided was sourced from the official website of Minhaj University Lahore in order to improve the comprehensiveness of the Wikipedia article.

I greatly appreciate your efforts in ensuring that Wikipedia articles are based on reliable and objective sources while maintaining a neutral perspective. I will continue to contribute in a way that aligns with these principles and provides accurate information to the readers.

If there are any additional guidelines or suggestions you have for improving the quality of my contributions, please do let me know. Your guidance is truly valued.

Best regards, [Tayyabrazams] Tayyabrazams (talk) 09:28, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you writing this with the aid of an AI bot? 331dot (talk) 09:30, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have used it only for accuracy. I don't use it for editing on Wikipedia because we want accurate and up-to-date information and not robotic information that is inaccurate. Tayyabrazams (talk) 09:43, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think you did so to edit, but it's better if you speak in your own words instead of getting an AI to do it for you. Just a tip. 331dot (talk) 09:54, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you are right Tayyabrazams (talk) 10:12, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Tayyabrazams. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Tayyabrazams. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Tayyabrazams|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 08:53, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 331dot,

I wanted to clarify that I have not received any financial support from any source for my Wikipedia editing endeavors. My intentions are entirely altruistic, driven by the goal of improving Wikipedia's content with accurate and enriched information. I am dedicated to ensuring that the information available on Wikipedia stays current and easily accessible, ultimately serving the needs of individuals seeking the most up-to-date information. I appreciate your comprehension of my motivations. Thank you. Tayyabrazams (talk) 09:39, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't pick the university at random to edit about. How did you come to edit about it? 331dot (talk) 09:55, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot On the Wikipedia page of Minhaj University, the logo image of Minhaj University was not there like that of other universities, which is why I came there. Then after looking at the information there, I felt that there is going to be an update, for which I visited the website of Minhaj University and got the information. thank you Tayyabrazams (talk) 10:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't answer my question. That's your motivation for editing, but not the reason you chose this university to edit about. 331dot (talk) 12:54, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you obtain the permission of the university to upload its logo? How did you do that? 331dot (talk) 12:59, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was Saturday night I was looking at the university's website, which had its logo on it, but as I looked at Wikipedia, it didn't have the logo on it. Then I uploaded the logo last night and updated it on the page today. So that those who see the university on Wikipedia do not think it is fake I put the official logo on it. And I am sure that the University and Wikipedia will not object to this because it is an act of accuracy of information and not to disturb anyone or to hide information. thank you Tayyabrazams (talk) 14:26, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can't just take their logo and upload it, there are copyright issues involved. Unless you personally are employed by the university and authorized to release the logo, we need the university to explicity release the logo or evidence they already did so(such as through a notice on their website). You cannot just assume that the university would not mind, and Wikipedia does certainly mind. 331dot (talk) 15:49, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot You are right but I have done these updates honestly and the university will not have a problem because we are correcting their information. The rest you can guide so that I can learn more and improve my understanding and working on Wikipedia Tayyabrazams (talk) 16:13, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since you still aren't directly answering me, I will put it this way; are you employed by or associated with Minhaj-ul-Quran or the University? 331dot (talk) 15:53, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot Yes, I am affiliated with Minhaj ul Quran. But I am unable to understand you what is your objection about giving correct information or something else Tayyabrazams (talk) 16:09, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It has been disingenuous of you to imply that you weren't affiliated when I've asked directly, but thank you. If you are employed by the organization or university, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal paid editing disclosure. If your affiliation is uncompensated, you will need to read conflict of interest and make that disclosure.

In either case, you should propose edits as edit requests(click for instructions) on the article talk page, and not directly make edits in most cases.

You must also immediately remove the image of the logo from the article as it is improperly licensed, and you must also request its deletion from Commons. There are three ways you can properly upload the logo:

upload it to this Wikipedia locally under "fair use"(see WP:FAIRUSE) via WP:UPIMAGE
get the university to explicitly release the logo under a copyright compatible with Wikipedia's (which allows for content reuse for any purpose, including commercial). They may not want to do that, as it would mean anyone could sell their logo(like on clothing) and the university could not get any money from tbe sale of its logo. But it's up to them.
you must demonstrate where the university has already released its logo.

If you do not remove the logo, or fail to make the proper disclosure, you will be blocked from editing. 331dot (talk) 17:19, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the guidance, I have removed the logo. The logo was uploaded by me through Wikimedia Commons. Can you please guide me how I can add pages of my organization and prominent personalities who are providing services at international level so that people from all over the world can have accurate information about them in Wikipedia.

I want to do this work for my institution without any financial support and it will be with references which can be cross checked

Thanks again for the talk and guidance Tayyabrazams (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you are employed by your organization in any capacity, there is no way around it, you are a paid editor and the Terms of Use are a binding legal requirement on you to disclose that fact. If your affiliation is not employment, you still must disclose that as a matter of policy. You should only edit existing articles related to your conflict of interest via edit requests.

Wikipedia is not a mere information repository, and Wikipedia should not be trusted blindly. This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, called notability, such as notable people. Please read Your First Article and understand that writing a new article is challenging without a conflict of interest, never mind with one.

You must do as requested soon. You must at least attempt to do so with your next edit. 331dot (talk) 18:59, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't removed the logo, it's still there. It is up for deletion on Commons as improperly licensed.

Upon looking at the university website, it states "all rights reserved", meaning you definitely cannot simply upload the logo. You must use one of the other two options I state above. 331dot (talk) 07:36, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]