User talk:Takalisa

Greetings and salutations

Great to be at the workshopShadiMon (talk) 08:42, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

I just received itTakalisa (talk) 09:03, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

heyuTakalisa (talk) 09:05, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Concerns

I have moved the below here. Some issues include "FGM is practised for both medical and ritual purposes" is not supported by the source which says it is not done for medical reasons. Also why periods on both sides of the references? There is no such thing as "virginity testing". There of course people who claim to be able to do this but it is not accurate.

While this may be true "When a woman gives birth, they cut her vaginal flesh and use it to apply to the baby’s head" this practice does NOT reduce or prevent the swelling at the back of a child’s head.

FGM in Venda Culture

Female genital mutilation is practiced by a small sect among the Venda people, who reside in Limpopo, the North Eastern region of South Africa.. FGM is practised for both medical and ritual purposes.

FGM for medical purposes

When a woman gives birth, they cut her vaginal flesh and use it to apply to the baby’s head to reduce or prevent the swelling at the back of a child’s head, which is called Goni. This procedure is called “muthuso”. Muthuso is ussually done eight weeks or less after the child's birth.. It is the Venda’s belief that muthuso is the only way to cure Goni, which is an "infection" that affects both the mother and the child. The swelling on the back of a child’s head is recognized as one of the early symptoms at birth.. The symptoms entail constant nail biting by the child at some stage (if left untreated at birth) or sores on the mother's vaginal canal.. This disease causes fertility problems to the mother if left untreated or an early death to the child.The vaginal sores on the mother are cut off and mixed with medicine..

A traditional healer is the only person who performs this ritual. The baby's mother has her vaginal flesh (sores) cut off by the traditional healer, who then takes the vaginal flesh and mixes it with oil and black powder. The vaginal flesh mixed with the powder and oil is then applied on the child’s head to prevent goni or reduce the swelling.. The medicine is also applied on the woman's sores on her vagina to treat the infection..

Effects

The cutting of the flesh is said to cause excessive bleeding after ‘muthuso’. Women who do not have access to healthcare rely on traditional medicines to stop the bleeding so they can heal. In some cases, there have been reports of death related to the ritual due to lack of proper treatment..

FGM in Venda culture as a rite of passage

In Venda culture, FGM is referred to as musevhetho. Musevhetho occurs at puberty but before the girl has started menstruating. The ritual is said to encourage girls to abstain from sex before marriage and maintain their purity. Girls who have lost their virginity are treated as pariahs during this ritual, as virginity testing is done before the ritual.

Musevhetho is widely practised in areas where vhusha, a rites of passage into womanhood which entails the elongation of the labia, is practiced. It is also practised by a small section of the Venda people.. The musevhetho tradition among the Venda is said to have been borrowed from the Basotho people where its refered to as "mula".

The ritual process

Girls reside in a ‘nonyana’ hut for 24 hours until an older woman has been appointed to tend to them. On the day of the ritual, they are taken to a secluded place by the river bank where the old woman cuts their clitoris and brands the girls’ thighs as a sign that the girl took part in the ceremony.. After the ceremony, the girls head back to the headman’s kraal for the celebrations and are given permission to socialize with boys who have also undergone murundu (male circumcision). The festivities entail beer drinking, dancing and singing for a fortnight. The girls are then taken back to the river where red ochre and fat is applied to their bodies and then brought back to rest at the headman’s kraal for a few days. They are later sent back to the river to wash their bodies but will leave the ‘branding’ unwashed. They then return to their respective homes where further celebrations will take place.

October 2017

Hello, I'm Oshwah. I noticed that in this edit to Muti, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Muti, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. ^{My name is}not^dave (talk/contribs) 08:37, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

• Greetings. It seems like you've been here long-ish enough that I shall not template you any further, but when you are making massive changes to a page like that, please do make liberal use of the edit summary box -- you'll confuse folks if you don't Thanks, ^{My name is}not^dave (talk/contribs) 08:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

• Greetings. I am sorry I forgot to do so, I was trying to copy and paste it back into the page under the colloquial subheading as I had meant to put it there but had placed it under the muti heading. I am sorry for that. User:My name is not dave OshwahTakalisa (talk) 08:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Intonjane

Hello Takalisa,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Intonjane for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source, probably infringing copyright.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

CASSIOPEIA (talk) 11:46, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

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