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Proposed deletion of Response boat - Small II

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Ships at Pearl harbor

I reverted your change at Attack on Pearl Harbor. There was one Coast Guard cutter, the Taney. The other ten vessels cited were not cutters. It's a good reference, and probably worth including somewhere, but not in the infobox (and in particular, if you do cite 11 coast guard ships, you should decrease the "other" ships from 49 to 39). Regards, Tarl N. (discuss) 19:44, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you are correct about the other vessels, my mistake, but the Tiger and Reliance were both 125 ft Active class cutters and were classified as cutters along with the Taney. So it should be at least 3 cutters. Most of the historical documents about these cutters are now unavailable because the Coast Guard recently changed it's website. TacticalPepsodent1184 (talk) 20:53, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Tiger and Reliance were listed as Patrol Boats (even in your second reference, to the Active class), rather than Cutters. Maybe today's definition is that anything longer than 20 meters is a cutter (I don't know, do you have a cite for that?), was it the case at the time? Tarl N. (discuss) 01:54, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the official classification was "Patrol Cutter" but like I said, most of the documents are unavailable now. This is the page that states that a cutter is at least 65 feet: *Assistant Commandant for Capability (CG-7) Office of Cutter Forces (CG-751) Even the Island class patrol boats or the Marine Protector class patrol boats are considered cutters, those are a few modern examples. I don't know if it this applied in the 1940's. TacticalPepsodent1184 (talk) 02:22, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That reference says what's under the Office of Cutter Forces, almost certainly a modern organizational definition. But applying that to 1941 is WP:OR. Unless you can show that definition applied back then, or find something which references those particular ships as cutters, it's a problem - the references you've cited so far don't use that term. Tarl N. (discuss) 07:37, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. here. Another of the Active class, termed a cutter. Tarl N. (discuss) 07:46, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed it does. These 3 links refer to a ship of the Active class or the Active class itself as cutters, Coast Guard Cutters & Craft,Vigilant IV, ACTIVE cutters (125-ft) (1927).

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