User talk:Mark at TCA

April 2020

Hello, I'm CLCStudent. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been disallowed by an edit filter because they did not appear constructive. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page, which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Also feel free to ask for assistance at the Help Desk whenever you like to. Thank you. CLCStudent (talk) 18:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

If you intend to make useful contributions other than promoting your business or organisation, you may request an unblock. To do so, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:CentralAuth to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy. Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In that reason, you must:

Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block. To do so, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page, replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason for thinking that the block was an error, and publish the page. Kinu ^t/_c 19:01, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Mark at TCA (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This is the first time I've ever attempted to edit a wiki page. I admit that I did not thoroughly read the rules and I now understand that I was not supposed to advertise anything. I apologize for the error. Please know that will not happen again. My name is Mark Wilson am the airport manager for the Tri County Airport in Bonifay. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to prove that to you, but I will give you the url to the official website for Tri County Airport so that you can verify my identity by either calling, emailing, or texting me as my information is posted on the website. My primary goal is to correct the runway length as we have extended the runway to 5,398 feet and the current information is incorrect. The instructions for requesting to be unblocked also say something about requesting a new user name, but I really don't understand how I'm supposed to do that. TCA Manager (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You don't need to verify your identity. However, you do need to review the conflict of interest and paid editing polices and explain how your future edits will be consistent with these policies. To make an unblock request that also proposes a new username, please use the first template shown in the block notice that says "unblock spamun"(you can copy it when viewing this page, and then open the edit window and paste it below). 331dot (talk) 21:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

For what it's worth, I have updated the runway length information. Also, the "promotion" which I note in the block notice is not due to that change, but the other content (i.e., your contact information) that you attempted to add. Please note that such information is not appropriate in an encyclopedia article. --Kinu ^t/_c 22:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Mark at TCA (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have read both the conflict of interest and paid editing polices and my future edits will be consistent with these policies. I am the Manager for the Tri County Airport in Bonifay, Florida but I am not being paid by anyone to edit the Wikipedia page for the Tri County Airport. The only reason that I may ever again need to edit this page is if I find incorrect or outdated information on it again. I would actually prefer to let one of the Wikipedia Administrators edit the page for me so that I don't accidentally violate any more policies. If that is a possibility please let me know how to just do that instead. As I said in an earlier reply, this is the first time I've ever attempted to edit anything on Wikipedia and I don't find the process particularly user friendly or easy to do. TCA Manager (talk) 23:10, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Accept reason:

There have been two concerns that led to the block: 1) Your username, which has now been changed. 2) Your attempted edits to Tri-County Airport (Florida). You must not edit the article directly again. Instead, you have now been unblocked to be able to suggest changes to the article, while openly disclosing your conflict of interest. Please: a) Create the page User:Mark at TCA with a short, neutral, concise description of your connection to Tri-County Airport (Florida). Proposed example: "I am the Airport Manager for Tri County Airport (TCA) in Bonifay, Florida. I was hired by the Board of Directors, known as the Tri County Airport Authority (TCAA) to perform specific duties related to keeping the TCA facilities running smoothly. Editing the TCA Wikipedia page does not fall under the umbrella of my duties, however I do not want to put myself in a position that would violate the Wikipedia Paid Editing Policy. The Board of Directors are all volunteers and receive no compensation for the performance of their duties as board members." b) When you would like to request changes, click the "Talk" tab at the top of the article, then click the "request corrections on or suggest content" link in the orange warning box. Under these conditions: Welcome back! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you will need to offer a new user name if you are to be unblocked. Wikipedia doesn't permit user names attached to particular posts, such as a manager of a company. A user name such as "Joe at TCA", attached to a particular person, would, however, be acceptable. Personally I don't see why the one is more acceptable than the other, but that is Wikipedia policy. JBW (talk) 23:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JBW "TCA Manager" could be used by anyone who holds that post(and accounts cannot be shared), while "Joe at TCA" can theoretically only be used by Joe. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot: Yes, I fully understand that that is the distinction that the policy makes; I just don't personally see any reason why we should allow the one and not the other. German Wikipedia gets on fine allowing both. JBW (talk) 20:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Mark at TCA (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Mark at TCA (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

Thank you for explaining this to me. TCA Manager (talk) 00:34, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I have renamed your account, and someone else will review your request. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will note that if you are the airport manager, you are being paid by the airport and must comply with the paid editing policy. You don't have to be specifically paid to edit Wikipedia if doing so falls within your job duties and even if you have not been specifically asked or directed to do so. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- I am the Airport Manager for Tri County Airport (TCA) in Bonifay, Florida. I was hired by the Board of Directors, known as the Tri County Airport Authority (TCAA) to perform specific duties related to keeping the TCA facilities running smoothly. Editing the TCA Wikipedia page does not fall under the umbrella of my duties, however I do not want to put myself in a position that would violate the Wikipedia Paid Editing Policy. The Board of Directors are all volunteers and receive no compensation for the performance of their duties as board members. The Board Secretary, Ross, is very technically proficient in all matters relating to the internet, building and maintaining web pages, etc. If he were to take over editing the Tri County Airport Wikipedia page, would that constitute a violation of the Paid Editing Policy for Wikipedia? Mark at TCA (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ross should take a good look at the Conflict of Interest policy. Even if he is not paid, he would do well to disclose his conflict of interest and to not edit the article directly but to propose changes to the article on its talk page (Talk:Tri-County Airport (Florida)). The code {{request edit}} can be added to such a talk page proposal to raise awareness, and independent editors will review such requests and implement them if they are found beneficial to the encyclopedia. That said, I don't see that you intend to make any further contributions to Wikipedia. If you do, then please explain how you intend to improve the encyclopedia if unblocked. Huon (talk) 19:37, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct in that I have no intention of ever again editing any of Wikipedia's pages. It is simply too complicated and time consuming for me to even try. As I stated much earlier, I am very new to this. I was not even aware that we could simply suggest edits to the page. That seems like the best option for me. Do I even need a profile to suggest edits? If not then would you please just delete my user profile as I won't be using it to edit anything else. It has been interesting and educational learning how this thing works. I do very much appreciate your patience in explaining it to me, and I apologize if I have wasted your time. You folks (admins) are doing a good job and I don't envy what you do. Thank you again. Mark at TCA (talk) 20:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above message appears pretty reasonable to me, and offers a possible solution. The user has been renamed. Kinu, under the condition that the user never edits Tri-County Airport (Florida) directly again, and instead proposes any and all changes on the talk page of the article instead, would you be fine with an unblock? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:00, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see no issue with those conditions. Mark, I know that you were editing in good faith, and I do hope that this experience doesn't deter you from contributing. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Kinu, done :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]