User talk:Supersentai

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hello

I hope you can expand more on Ming Dynasty Hanfu =]

Check out this site: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=470347977

The pictures in it can be a great use, you can modify or translate the words or even cut out the picture and group them together.

hey why did you remove the song dynasty section? --208.120.192.182 (talk) 01:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Made it

Hey i made the artical, please check it out here [[1]]. --Lennlin (talk) 17:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

???

hey why did you remove the song dynasty section? --Lennlin (talk) 01:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Supersentai! I am Michael93555 and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Michael (Talk) 03:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violation and usages of unreliable sources

Hello, Supersentai. You have upload many images from "Baidu" without any permission from original copyright holders. Wikipedia takes very seriously copyright policy. Moreover, even though you uploaded scanned images of "old Chinese images" from books, you have to crop off texts or others from the original pages. These 8 images would be deleted for obvious violation.

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And as for your sourcing from Baidu, and forums, please read WP:V and WP:RS. Thanks.--Caspian blue 01:51, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 2009

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources, as you did to Hanbok. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. I can read Korean, but you did not give any page numbers from 1966 something book. You instead erased cited information from other encyclopedias. If you continue such thing, you are responsible for your behaviors.--Caspian blue 12:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3RR warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Hanbok. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. --Caspian blue 12:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't I say you have to provide "actual pages". You did not. If you continue such behaviors, you will get in trouble soon.-Caspian blue 12:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

{{helpme}} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanbok

I'm trying to remove unreferenced information, and add referenced information to the above article, but my edits have been repeated reverted by Caspian blue and others.Supersentai (talk) 13:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, STOP. Do not make further edits. Discuss it on the talk page, and try to reach a consensus. If you have problems in doing so, ask other contributors for their opinion - perhaps look in the article history to find other people who have worked on the article, and leave a note on their talk page asking them to join in the discussion. You could also ask on a related project talk page, for example, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea - again, just ask them to contribute on the article talk.

If you still have problems, there are many options available - see WP:DISPUTE.

I hope that this helps;

For more help, you can either;

Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
Use a {{helpme}} - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put {{helpme}}, and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~~~~ at the end; OR
Talk to us live.

Best of luck, Chzz ► 13:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing from a PDF file

{{helpme}} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanbok

I edited the above article, with a reference in PDF file, but Caspian blue repeatedly reverted my edits, and even issued me a warning stating I need to provide "page numbers" and "actual pages". I have no idea what that means, or how to do that for a PDF file. Can someone help me with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supersentai (talk • contribs)

I reverted your edit one time on Hanbok, You instead erased "cited information" from encyclopedias and others. Those are referenced if you look at the end of such sentences. You instead inserted a 1966 source without any actual page numbers. Please say "truth". Thanks.--Caspian blue 13:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tips on referencing

There are lots of ways to do this, some are simple, some more complex.

Personally, I like using citation templates, and fill in as much as I possibly can; maybe a bit more work, but I think it looks better. You have a <REF> at the start, then a suitable cite tag, then </REF>. An example usage is;

<ref>
{{Citation
 | last = Preston
 | first = Peter
 | title = D. H. Lawrence in the modern world
 | last2 = Hoare
 | first2 = Peter
 | author2-link =
 | publication-date = 1989
 | edition = illustrated
 | place = [[Cambridge]], [England]
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
 | url = http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=J5nRoaOwkPMC&printsec=frontcover#PPA125,M1
 | accessdate = 2008-05-11
}}
</ref>

For all the possible things to include, see Template:Citation

Of course, you don't have to put everything in, just whatever you can. The above example is a book, but I've included a 'convenience link' to a website that displays it.

Then, at the end of the document (but before any 'category' tags), you need a references section. You just put,

== References ==

{{reflist}}

Hard work? - help is at hand. There are lots of tools that create cite tags automagically. Personally, I use Zotero for the web links, and the cite book generator for books.

I also recommend you look at other articles and copy from them - especially featured articles, which should have good refs.

Hope this help, cheers, Chzz ► 13:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Warning for your recent canvassing

Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Talk:List of Han Chinese clothing. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. --Caspian blue 03:50, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, as you forgot on your recent edit to Ruqun. Thank you. Chzz ► 14:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Warning: Reliable sources

Warning

Despite many complaints from other users, you are continuing to add infomation with references that are not reliable sources.

Verifiability is a Wikipedia core content policy.

In future, please only use sources such as major newspapers or published books. If you are in any doubt, please ask on the Reliable sources Noticeboard.

I hope that you will become a valuable contributor to Wikipedia, but if you keep adding information that does not have a reliable source, your account will be blocked.

If you have any questions, either;

Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
Use a {{helpme}} - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put {{helpme}}, and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~~~~ at the end; OR
Talk to us live.

Best wishes, Chzz ► 17:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Important: Please start using edit summaries.
Please could you explain this edit, where you removed a reference?

I've checked online, and this book focus only on clothes of modern China (late Qing Dynasty till now), and not Ming or Imperial China. Thus, it's reliability is suspected and it is non-verifiable. Supersentai (talk) 23:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The book focuses on the late Imperial era of China, which includes both Ming and Qing dynasties. Cydevil38 (talk) 00:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will be putting up an explanation at ruqun talk page. Supersentai (talk) 00:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This does not appear to be a reliable source, as far as I can tell. Please discuss.

This (I assume you refer to the latest revision) is the website of the archaeologists whom excavated the tombs of the Ming royalties, so why won't it be reliable? Supersentai (talk) 23:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With this edit, this edit and this edit, you changes the edition details of a book used for referencing - could you please tell me why. Thanks, Chzz ► 17:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I initially used an online book store for the edition and publication date, but after I check with the book, I found it to be wrong, so I edited all articles that I referenced with this book. Supersentai (talk) 23:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As chzz said above, please continue to work on including edit summaries. It is largely preferred to have a summary for every edit than just a few. Also, I was wondering why, on the Ruqun talk page, this diff in particular, you were claiming a source from 2006 was outdated, while later referencing yourself with a 40 year old document? Most of your edits don't seem to conform to our neutral point of view policy, and that is against the Wikipedia mission of building a free encyclopedia. An encyclopedia must encompass all viewpoints, not just the opinion of one person. I am glad to see that you have been using the article talk page to discuss changes, but it would be very polite of you to be a little bit nicer in answering questions and replying to discussion topics. If you continue to remove legitimate sources and insert your own questionable/outdated/NPOV sources while biting other editors, I will open a request for comment. Thank you, MacMed^{talk to me!}_{what have i done?} 00:43, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a Chinese fashion portal. Any information regarding history on this portal is highly unreliable. At least the 40 year old document is based on research. Supersentai (talk) 09:01, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yet here you say that Ming Dynasty artifacts have only been excavated in the past few years. Though the document may have been based on research at the time of publication, you yourself explain how it could not now be accurate. As well, please use edit summaries, even on your own talk page. Thank you, MacMed^{talk to me!}_{what have i done?} 11:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The document is a research on Korean hanbok, and only talks about Chinese hanfu influences based on historical record/literature, not based on artifacts. Artifacts only proves that something existed at some time period, and nothing more. Supersentai (talk) 11:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I accepted your earlier statement on this page in good faith, but recent info given to me by Cydevil38 has shown that your attack on the verifiability of this site was in fact untrue. The site is a copy of reliable college-grade books. This scan was given to me for verifiability. Will you now accept the reliability of this as a source? MacMed^{talk to me!}_{what have i done?} 21:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This same picture of the garment was taken from other Chinese sites like this and this (this picture has been circulating on the internet). If you notice, the picture on the Chinese sites are of higher quality than the one in the book, which means the book copied this picture from the internet, and not the reverse. This further lower the credibility of the book, as a properly researched book on historical topics should be using historical paintings and artifacts, instead of a picture circulating on the internet. This only shows how much 'research' has been done for the book. Supersentai (talk) 00:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The online pictures are most likely higher quality because the book was scanned, not simply had a picture taken of it. I have no reason to doubt Cydevil, whereas you have been in a fair number of disputes judging from your talk page. Also, your first site is also a wiki, and I see no reason for the picture to not be up there just as much as here, or the so called "fashion portal". I don't know what the second site is, but again, it may be higher quality because it was not scanned out of a perfectly verifiable, college-grade book. MacMed^{talk to me!}_{what have i done?} 01:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ruqun

Unfortunately, the discussion is too far advanced for me to chirp in. Besides, I am only a novice on such matters of Hanfu; my expertise lies in guqin music. --Charlie Huang 【遯卋山人】 11:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

Per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Supersentai, it has been found that you are using another account to continue reverting edits. As such, I have blocked you for 72 hours for abusing multiple accounts. Please do not repeat this or you will be blocked for a much longer period. Thank you. PeterSymonds (talk) 01:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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