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A.F.C. Wimbledon

Looking at the good article criteria I would say that it is necessary to get a lot more references, particularly for statements like 'astonishingly large crowd', 'asset stripping' etc that really do need them. Presumbably all the records, scores, league positions etc. are online somewhere and so could get inline references. Also you could add more images easily, I did a quick search on flickr for creative commons photos and found some immmediately. So in summary, it needs a bit of work yet. JMiall₰ 09:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Good effort. Still though I couldn't support this for GA unless you had citations for everything that is potentially controversial or looks like an opinion such as:

1. the 2nd paragraph of the foundation section
2. 'completely alien to the traditions of the game in England'
3. the 2nd paragraph of the Ground purchase section
4. The 'Why AFC' section, particularly the quote

JMiall₰ 12:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you very much for fixing up the code on my page protection request.

Wanderer57 22:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

PS What is a Machem?

Wimbledon AFC PR

Hello. I've added some comments at the Wimbledon AFC peer review. Hope they help you. The Rambling Man 11:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Why A.F.C.

I'm not sure what this was meant to be, but it seemed like a draft, so I moved it to your userspace at User:Sunderland06/Why A.F.C.. NawlinWiki 19:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• I wouldn't break this out as a separate article -- it's not long enough, and the first paragraph is still in the main article anyway. Also, you need sources for the statements in this excerpt, see WP:V. NawlinWiki 19:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• • You use the reference tags (<ref> at the beginning of the citation, </ref> at the end). NawlinWiki 19:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• • • Just add the reference tags again and put the citation between them (even if you've already used the same citation elsewhere in the article). NawlinWiki 19:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Footnotes#Citing a footnote more than once covers this. Leebo ^T/C 20:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

World Cup

Sorry, but no, if you want, you can use the random country selector (which means it is chosen by us lol). El-Nin09 20:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Jamie Chandler

Yes, an article can be brought back from deletion. See Wikipedia:Deletion review. Mattythewhite 15:26, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Point Policy

Please check the Cup's Point Policy. F9T 11:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

San Marino Calcio

Thanks for sending me a message. Probably the best place to start when it comes to looking for free images is Wikimedia's own Commons. There are tons of completely free images there that you can use. As far as peer review goes, I'd say it's probably a bit early for that. The article could use some basic expansion before you start drafting outside editors to review it, I think. Cheers! Esrever 00:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you're having trouble finding free images on a particular topic, it may be that those pictures simply don't exist yet. You can always take them yourself (if you happen to live in San Marino, for example), or you could see if you can find a Wikipedian who does live in that area who could create free images instead. If you find non-free images on Flickr, you might also consider asking the photo's creator to relicense his or her images under a free license instead. Cheers! Esrever 18:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Cup

Sorry, I am unable to access Kates tool at the moment, I will do the next stage when i get on there. F9T 10:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Cisco Roma players

So, you're giving me your authorization to delete the player articles I proposed to delete? --Angelo 17:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User the Netherlands football

A tag has been placed on User the Netherlands football, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per speedy deletion criterion G2.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the article and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. -- WebHamster 18:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Moved to Template:User Netherlands football. --Angelo 19:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Paoli and more

I restored the article. About the Netherlands task force join proposal, I am not interested due to the fact I don't really know a bit of Dutch football, and I am already way too busy with all the stuff I am doing here and in real life I would not have enough time to be actually active in it. About the San Marino venue, I didn't find a free picture anywhere in the Web, and I can't really help you in any other way, considering the fact San Marino is not close enough to Tuscany. Sorry for that. --Angelo 21:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Spain task force

Thank you for the invitation to participate in this task force. Unfortunately, I don't really know much about football, nor is it really one of my interests I'm afraid. I simply came across the San Calcio article as part of work on the Good Articles task force. Again, thanks for the invitation, though. Cheers! Esrever 21:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

{{helpme}}

You've inserted the {{helpme}} template, can I be of assistance? If not, feel free to change {{helpme}} to {{tl|helpme}}. —— Ryan ^{(t)•(c)•(review me!)} 11:09, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid I really don't know. I can only suggest either leaving this {{helpme}} in place for someone who does know, or posting a message in a discussion page of a related wikiproject. —— Ryan ^{(t)•(c)•(review me!)} 11:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The template in question ({{football}} is protected, so add a new section to its Talk page explaining the changes you want to be made, and place {{editprotected}} in that section; an administrator will make the changes you want for you. --ais523 11:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Spain

You'd have to make a task force for Spanish football, which I'm not really sure as to how to make. Mattythewhite 11:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi i'm italian user SoloTitano. Thanks for your work about Sanmarinese footballers and San Marino Calcio's players (i'm a fan of this team). Your work is great, and I hope to use your informations also on it.wiki. Infact I create articles about San Marino Calcio and Sanmarinese sportspeople =) You can also create a category about San Marino Calcio's players like it:Categoria:San Marino Calcio. Contact me for everything and if I can help you =) it:Utente:SoloTitano. Bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.5.91.192 (talk) 11:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry .. I didn't look at my english page very often! Photo of Stadio Olimpico? Mmm .. I tell some of my friends to take a photo in the next football match (sunday, 11/11) .. then I give it to you to upload =)Why are you interested in this team? =)

Bye, SoloTitano (not logged) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.5.91.192 (talk) 16:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Mortaro and more

Can you please give me a source stating he played in a competitive league match before to restore it? About your involvement in creating taskforces, I'd like if you would propose them first at WP:COUNCIL/P before starting them. Taskforces should be created only when necessary, as many of the current ones are actually useless. Thank you. --Angelo 16:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yet another thing: season articles are generally to be set as low-importance, according ot the current importance scale. Thank you. --Angelo 21:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

A weird edit

Can you please explain me this edit? All you did with that was to empty the previous Italian football article table. It seems you're a bit unexperienced, you're pleased to ask for some help before making edits you're not sure about. --Angelo 23:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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Some thankyou spam, glorious spam

Thankyou for supporting my successful rfa which closed with 58 supports. If i am honest i am rather humbled by the unanimous support and i hope to live up to everyones expectations. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again. Woodym555 15:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

The sunder king

Sockpuppet of a blocked user. F9T 20:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Easington Community Science College

Hello. I took a look at the above article and corrected a few typos and other such minutiae. The rating it currently has (Stub-Class) seems appropriate. Cheers! Esrever (talk) 03:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

And thanks for the Barnstar. :) Esrever (talk) 04:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiCup

You have made the final, well done. F9T 19:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

How dee? ;)

Gavin Donoghue and Richard Ord, mebbes you can help me improve them? Gazh (talk) 14:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. To be honest i'm not familiar with the requirements for a review, so i'll let you decide that one, however for Gavin's notability the page has lots of info, i pointed you onto it as i've seen your edits and you know your shit ;) Gazh 14:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I never actually added the part you need a source for, so i can't help with that i'm afraid. Gazh (talk) 08:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

rating and copyediting articles

Hi again. I'm reluctant to rate the Jack Pelter article, as I'm not a member of the either of the 2 WikiProjects there. Maybe ask someone on one of those two projects to come by and have a look at it. I'm afraid I don't know enough about football to tell you where it needs improving.

I've had a look at the Gavin Donoghue article, though. I cleaned up it as best as I could, but some if it still strikes me as being a little POV. Also, make sure to add references for any possibly controversial statements. Cheers! Esrever 20:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

EFD

No, it's just a joke, I won't really be deleted, at least I hope I won't... :) <DREAMAFTER> ^<TALK> 20:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Roundhouse talk

Just thought I owe you an explanation. In the talk page, the cat name wasn't displayed in the message b/c you'd enclosed it in brackets, so it seemed like you were replying directly to me (you can see this by looking at the displayed message, not the diff). In the edit window, I didn't read the message again, so I didn't notice. I only noticed that the category about the school had been seeminngly 'misplaced' as a section header above your comment; that's why I moved it to the bottom. Sorry. SamEV 00:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Easington

Best plan is to add a 'keep' comment here ... I think the category will survive. (I personally think any secondary school deserves a category - eg William Hague went to Wath Comprehensive and might well be the only notable person to have been there.) -- roundhouse0 02:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Under-13

No, just use a hyphen for under-13, not the en-dash. The Rambling Man 19:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, don't think so. A good copyeditor should be able to spot NPOV anyway, so head for WP:LOCE for help. The Rambling Man 19:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

PR

No worries, I'm just making a flying visit tonight but will endeavour to have a butcher's tomorrow..... ChrisTheDude 20:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Gavin Donoghue

May I ask why you requested my assistance. I mostly do WP:CHICAGO and Michigan Wolverines football articles.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

American football!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 15:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

San Marino Calcio

I've added some comments as per your request at the peer review. Hope they are of use to you!! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Spooky, I left you a message saying I'd done it one minute before you left me a message asking when I'd do it! Anyway, it is done! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at List of Ipswich Town F.C. players for how I considered players to be notable... The Rambling Man (talk) 12:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well it depends. Since it's such a low-level club perhaps Serie A appearances are notable but I doubt it. I would go for more than 100 appearances (or a similar number if no-one meets that level, say 75 or 50), club record holders (top scorers, most expensive purchase, sale etc)... The Rambling Man (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't know where you want to take the article but if GA/FA is what you're after then aim to structure your article like Arsenal F.C. or Norwich City F.C. so include honours, crest and colours, expand history, remove "notable" players, add a managers section, add records section etc. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

"Prosed history" means a well written and comprehensively referenced four or five large paragraphs to describe the club's history. It's also wise to get such a section copyedited, if at all possible by WP:LOCE. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Easington Colliery A.F.C.

Hi. The "rules" on the notability of clubs and whether they should be included are not very precise. I have seen a few articles written about tier 11 clubs (like Easington Colliery A.F.C.) so I think you'd be okay, but before you put too much effort into it you should post the same question at WP:FOOTBALL so the community can give you their opinion. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

There's Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C. which might be similar. It's always a good idea to get some press articles as sources - these establish notability and then you can use a club website to add details. (The Stocksbridge article lacks these independent sources so could be afd'd any time.) Definitely a good idea not to spend hours on something that is then deleted. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 15:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Gavin Donoghue

Sorry for my lateness. Comments added. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

San Marino and Gavin Donoghue copy-edit requests

Thank you for your kind comments and the invitation to copy-edit these articles. In view of the woeful under-staffing of the League of Copy-Editors and the resultant backlog, I recently made a personal decision to focus available time mostly on scholarly topics rather than popular culture, sports, etc. This is not a judgment of the notability of this topic, and there are likely to be members of the League who enjoy working on articles like these two. Good luck with the articles. Regards, Unimaginative Username (talk) 22:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

What do you need help with

Please state what you need help with.

The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 19:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: AFD - Articles for Deletion

Please state the article that you have put for deletion and I will see what I can do.

The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 19:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Prof. Akwasi Asabere Ameyaw

This probably wasn't what you were hoping for when you asked me to copyedit the above page, but I've just now listed it at Wikipedia:Copyright problems, as all the text comes from this site. Sorry! Esrever ^(klaT) 19:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure, you're welcome to recreate the article by using text that you write yourself and that you attribute where appropriate to other sources. If you go the article's page, you can see a link where you can edit the article on a subpage. That's really the only place you can do any editing until the copyright stuff gets sorted out. Esrever ^(klaT) 20:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Help - It does show up.

It does. The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar Award

You have one now anyways, so no need to worry! The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I got fooled by my own fake box

Thanks for Signing! The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You'll be sad to know I am not really a football fan

You'll be sad to know I am not really a football fan The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Userpage Banner

Do so with pleasure... I got it from another user after requesting :)

The Helpful One ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Categories on userboxes & other templates

Hi, I think that's fixed User:Sunderland06/UserBox/iwantaward. Use <includeonly> for the category to take effect when the template (e.g. this userbox) is "transcluded". <noinclude> is for something that only takes effect on the template page itself. HTH! - Fayenatic (talk) 17:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, I did some more on both the userbox and the Category:Wikpedians wanting awards or barnstars. Now the userbox goes onto the user page without the explanatory text. I've also added an option so that the userbox can be used without putting the page in the category. Hope this is what you wanted now - do let me know! - Fayenatic (talk) 18:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:NAV BOX

I'd like one like yours, it's brilliant! Are the images customizable? And could I add more stuff like an email-me link etc...

thanks a lot, Cf38 18:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

re:re:help

a link to my sandbox, an email me button and a random link (special:random). To clarify, are the images changable and can you add more links as I create more sub user pages?

thanks, Cf38 18:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

re:signature

You know, one thats a differant font, has a backround and the fonts are different colours. I'd like the font 'Outwrite', (Don't worry, it works, Ive tried it)a black backround, cf38 in red which links to my userpage and after 'cf38' in a smaller(!) font in white, the word 'talk' which links to my talk.

thanks very much! :D

Cf38 18:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

re re signature

thanks very much mate!:D

Cf38 18:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

nav box!

It's great, thanks!!!

By the way, is it possible for me to create a template page and post this info in there, as I have seen it on user talks they just have a single line - e.g {{user:Oxymoron83/usernav}}

thanks!!!!

Cf38 19:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

re: nav box

Thanks, its brillaint! but if I want to add more stuff to it or change a picture, because it's located at {{user:Sunderland06/nav-box}} won't it change yours?

Basiclly, can you just tell me how to create a template(say under User:Cf38/navbox), I can post the info there and I can edit it freely without disturbing you?

thanks, I really appreiciate this! Cf38 19:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: BARNSTAR

THIS IS UNBELIEVEABLE! I don't know why you gave me a barnstar, because you are the one that deserves it! You've been helping me all night! I swear just now I've been looking through all the templates, wondering which barstar to give you!!!

thanks! Cf38 19:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

You'r barnstar!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thanks so much! You did'nt have to help me but you put loads of effort into it! Thank you! Cf38 19:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

and have of these. You deserve 'em!

And like you I'm from the north! (sort of)

I've edited it....

---

thanks a lot, it's perfect!

Page deletion request

Done. All you need to do, for future reference, is put {{db-userreq}} on the page (as Thehelpfulone did when they saw your {{helpme}}). Cheers, Tonywalton ^Talk 18:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)