User talk:Sumtimreh

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Hello, Sumtimreh, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Genesis (2006 Novel), may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

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Proposed deletion of Genesis (2006 Novel)

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Genesis (2006 Novel), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

article about a novel that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

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Ok, that was the default blurb. My personal advice is, before creating an article, make sure you have enough material written to establish a claim for notability and provide sources for that. A Wikipedia article on a book should focus more upon its impact in the world, not on plot summary etc. If you want to work gradually, you can create an article in your userspace, e.g. User:Sumtimreh/Genesis (2006 Novel) and move it into the public view when it is ready (but please don't add any categories to an article while it is still a user subpage!) dramatic (talk) 03:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Again,

Another user removed the Proposed deletion tag when they added (with sources) the information about it winning awards and being published in 22 countries (which is exactly the sort of notability criteria a book needs to have its own Wikipedia article). So there is no longer any danger of deletion. The plot summary is largely ok, although there are one or two instances of unencyclopedic language and comments which express a reader's point of view. (It's fine to quote (with reference) a sentence from a published review, although the plot summary should really stick purely to plot.

What concerns me now is the long section on the politics of the book - such a large slab of analysis with no sources given usually indicates either a personal essay by the contributor OR a copyright violation (large chunks of content copied verbatim from a single source). I couldn't find an online match for key sentences, so I'm suspecting the first explanation. In which case, please read Wikipedia:No original research. This is a core ploicy. A section on the politics of the book is most welcome, (particularly as it discusses the book in a real-world context rather than in the book's own universe), but it can only be a summary of what others have already written about the book (preferably in professionally published media). Cheers, dramatic (talk) 08:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with User:Dramatic on the politics section. It's actually a very thoughtful and well written section, I'm afraid it will get deleted in time for lack of attribution. If we say something about a novel, if we analyze and interpret it, we are supposed to attribute who said it from a reliable source. On Wikipedia, we report on what other people say, not our own original ideas. It's actually a limitation of Wikipedia, it's not a great place for the creative writer. It may be appropriate for Wikibooks, but would require a lot of expansion and made into a classroom study guide. For example see Travels with Charlie, or Wikibooks Fiction Annotations. Green Cardamom (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of God Drug

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Speedy deletion of The Modular Man

A tag has been placed on The Modular Man requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]_{call me Keith} 05:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've declined the speedy deletion of The Modular Man as my reading of the article is that its about an SF Book, and "No context. Articles lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article. Example: "He is a funny man with a red car. He makes people laugh." This applies only to very short articles." doesn't apply. But I have put an OR tag on it as it lacks links to independent reviews of the book that have been published in Reliable sources Ϣere SpielChequers 07:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Much thanks to you both.Sumtimreh (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April 2009

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, as you forgot on your recent edit to Politics in Out of the Silent Planet. Thank you. Otisjimmy1 (talk) 02:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Politics in Out of the Silent Planet

A tag has been placed on Politics in Out of the Silent Planet requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. ttonyb1 (talk) 03:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Out of the Silent Planet

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. --neon white talk 10:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of The Modular Man

A tag has been placed on The Modular Man requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]_{call me Keith} 09:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And I have removed the speedy deletion template because the criterion selected is for people and organisations and specifically excludes books. If anyone wants to delete the article they will need to go through a more rigorous process, WP:AFD. dramatic (talk) 10:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Bad Faith (novel)

The article Bad Faith (novel) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Notability issue (tagged Feb. 2010). 1st novel. Two sources (author's site & editor's site).

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. K. ROTH 20:56, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]