User talk:Stowellg
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Vehicle registration plates of Kansas
[edit]For Kansas new License plate 2024, I will let you know, when I get new plate sooner, if new backgrounds? Andrewbox March 7, 2024
"Klondike53226, do not remove edits like the last time again, there was no reason for it and you took away quite a bit of information that was added. This is not an opinion page, it is for facts, so do not remove and change info because you don't like it, especially if it's cited. Only edit if you actually have something to contribute."
Well it pains me to say, Stowellg, that I stand by my rolling back of edits on the Kansas license plate article. And it also pains me to say that there *was* a reason for it.
During the two-and-a-half months I was away, edits *were* made to the article that I felt - and quite strongly - should not have been made in the first place. I will say at this point, it wasn't you who made these edits.
But because I felt so strongly that they should not have been made at all, I decided that the best course of action would be to roll back to a point before they were made, and then restore as many of the good edits made in the intervening time as I could (if not necessarily word for word, and not necessarily adding back all the corresponding citations as well - there *is* such a thing as citation overkill, after all). And that's what I did - restoring the personalized passenger plates and the educational and military distinctive plates that you had justifiably added, along with most of the corresponding info. You may very well disagree that this was the best course of action - but I couldn't think of any better alternatives.
I'm more than willing to admit that when I performed this rollback, I could and quite probably should have pointed out, there and then, the user responsible for the edits I felt should not have been made at all. I'm not the sort of person who likes to name names, however - and I felt that it wouldn't be wise, either, to describe this user in any way.
But since I'm in this situation now, I will say that this user was a confirmed sockpuppet. The individual had made a great number of very questionable and even nonsensical edits to license plate articles for most states (and a few Canadian provinces, too), particularly the Wisconsin article. Many of these edits involved changing the high serials spotted to ones that didn't look genuine (and usually weren't), and some of them even involved adding plates that don't exist at all. And it wasn't uncommon for these edits to be reverted, and for the individual to restore them. I know you have to assume good faith, but how can you do that with this kind of individual? (I would never sink so low, however, as to comment on things like their state of mind, background, or command of English.)
Anyway, the Kansas article *wasn't* the only one on which I performed a big rollback, and then restored good edits to some extent, after this user was indefinitely blocked - I did it on the Wisconsin and Illinois articles too. This might well come across as an attitude of article ownership - but all I want is for these articles to be the best they can possibly be. As much information as possible but not *too* much; as many citations from as many reliable sources as possible but not *too* many; everything as clear as possible and well laid out (though of course *absolute* consistency between the articles for all fifty states, DC, the territories, and all the Canadian jurisdictions will almost certainly never be possible). Inevitably, this will take time - and vigilance is also required, for when test and sockpuppet edits *are* made to these articles (even when good faith is assumed). And now and again, there *will* be an awkward situation that someone has to sort out in some way - and the course of action that person decides on and takes might turn out not to be the best one, even if it seems like it.
If you're still mad at me after reading all this, all I can do is apologize.
Kind regards,
Klondike53226 (talk) 23:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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Vehicle registration plates of Kansas (again)
[edit]With the very, *very* greatest of respect, Stowellg, I do not think it would be the worst idea in the world to read WP:NOT, WP:FANCRUFT, and WP:OWN before continuing to edit the Kansas license plate article.
And I say this as a huge license plate fan myself, who would like to add everything there is to know about license plates to Wikipedia but knows that that's impossible one way or another.
No hard feelings whatsoever. :)
Klondike53226 (talk) 00:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- May I hasten to add: it's hard for me personally to decide what should go in license plate articles, and what should not - and it may well be that in my two-and-a-bit years on Wikipedia, I've added a few things to these articles that in fact appeal only to license plate fans and not to everyone, and I've removed a few things from these articles that in fact do appeal to everyone and not only to license plate fans.
- By no means is this intended as a criticism, or any kind of judgment, of your actions on the Kansas license plate article or anywhere else, BTW. And if by chance you *do* interpret it as a criticism, all I can do is apologize.
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