User talk:Stephen Buel

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S.F. Examiner

Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for the updates on the Examiner and Black Press pages. As the editor who originally added the sale information (based on published newspaper sources, though I see they turned out to be erroneous) I'm glad to see you have a better source with correct info. My question is -- do you have access to any source that goes into greater detail on the composition of the ownership? This source states that the new ownership company is "a consortium led by the Black Press Group", which would seem to imply that it's a corporate investment for Black Press, not a personal one for David Black. _{```</sub> t o l l <sub>`</sub> b o o t h <sub>`</sub> w i l l i e <sub>``</sub> $1.25 PLEASE <sub>```} 21:22, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Stephen - Thanks for getting back to me. No need to apologize at all, neither of us is getting paid for this and (unlike your day job!) there are no deadlines. I googled the heck out of this and that SF Weekly article was the only mention I could find of Black Press being involved as a corporation (other than the initial erroneous reports that Black Press was buying SF Examiner outright), so I'm going to close the book on this as far as my involvement goes and simply consider David Black to be an individual investor and SF Examiner to be unassociated with Black Press. I removed the Examiner from the Black Press navbox (footer navigation box) a couple days ago. Thanks for all your help getting the correct information in Wikipedia. _{```</sub> t o l l <sub>`</sub> b o o t h <sub>`</sub> w i l l i e <sub>``</sub> $1.25 PLEASE <sub>```} 18:03, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

ps - yes, that was the right way to respond to me. There are actually two ways to respond to messages left on talk pages -- one is what you did, which is to post a response on the other person's talk page. The other is to continue the conversation on the page where it began (sort of like what I'm doing right now by "responding" to myself on your page). The disadvantage of that option is that the other party may not be aware that you've responded. I tend to follow the second option, but I put a note on the other party's talk page saying "I've responded to your comments on my talk page". You can do this by simply posting the code {{Tb|Your-User-Name-Here}}, which renders:

Hello, Stephen Buel. You have new messages at Your-User-Name-Here's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Cheers. _{```</sub> t o l l <sub>`</sub> b o o t h <sub>`</sub> w i l l i e <sub>``</sub> $1.25 PLEASE <sub>```} 18:24, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Not the most intuitive of interfaces.