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Your submission at Articles for creation: Midlands Parking Ltd (September 2)
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Hello, Srezah!
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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Midlands Parking Ltd
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A tag has been placed on Draft:Midlands Parking Ltd, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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- Hi Grab Up,
- Thank you for your review. Please note that the only thing for this article submission was to list the company on Wikipedia, which I beleive is totally fine. I only included what they are offering, what each product is for, etc, to give a holistic picture of what this company is about. There is no intent for promotion or advertisement.
- Could you be kind to please specify if any section(s) need amendment, I will do so accordingly. However, I still believe, this article best presents the overall picture of the company.
- Looking forward to your response. Srezah (talk) 12:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
September 2024
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Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
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Hello, Srezah. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Liz,
- There is no personal relationship except listing the active company on Wikipedia page. Company profiling is allowed on Wikipedia, and that's the only thing I did. I was given the freelance gig to create a wiki page for the company, and I am really stressed to see it being turned away. I beleive it is subjective assessment that you have pursumed it as marketing/advertising, it is just simply listing a company, specifying what this company is about, its details, and what they are offering, just like any other wikipedia page.
- Still, I am new to wikipedia, so if you can please let me know what changes must be needed for this and in what sections, I would rather be highly thankful for your feedback.
- I only need to list my company, what should I do?
- Thank you! Srezah (talk) 12:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- If this is a "freelance gig", you are engaged in paid editing. While that is not forbidden, paid editors are required to make some disclosures, as detailed here. Your next edit must be to either make these disclosures, or request assistance with doing so. If it is anything aside from that, you will be blocked from editing. Seraphimblade Talk to me 12:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply and assistance. Sorry for bothering you much, but could you please be kind to let me know how should I retrieve my article, so that I include the disclosure and resubmit for review? Also, if you think any sections need editing, please let me know. Srezah (talk) 12:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Final chance to make the disclosures. If you keep pushing at "retrieving" it without doing that, I will block you for undisclosed paid editing. I linked to how to make them above, but just for good clarity, I will do so again; this is the documentation for the disclosures for paid editors. Those disclosures are, without exception, mandatory. Seraphimblade Talk to me 12:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Midlands Parking Ltd for their contributions to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Midlands_Parking_Ltd&oldid=1243529332. - Srezah (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, you'll need to then do that on your user page appropriately, but you're certainly making the effort there, so I'll credit that well enough. So far as the rest: Articles are not a "company profile", and contrary to what you seem to think, no, Wikipedia is not for anything like that. Rather, articles are encyclopedia articles, written in a neutral tone based upon reliable and independent sources, not sources like the company's own website. We're not interested in what the company has to say about itself, but rather what high-quality sources completely unaffiliated with it verify about it. For the vast majority of companies, the answer is "Such sources haven't said very much at all", and in that case, we should not have an article about that company. You can find specific guidelines at the general notability guideline, and for companies, also at the stricter notability guidelines for organizations. If the company doesn't pass those (and, as above, most don't), there should not be any article about it. Does such reference material exist about the company you propose to write about?Additionally, note that it is not acceptable to spam stuff about it into other articles, either, as you did here.[1] Paid editors should not directly edit mainspace articles. Rather, you would suggest your edit on the talk page, then place {{edit COI}} above your proposed change so that an editor without a conflict of interest can review your proposal. I can already tell you that an edit which includes external links in the article text would not be accepted; articles should not have inline external links in the article body. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your detailed answer. I can post that on user page too, however, I don't have the article with me to make necessary amendments and resbumit for review with appropriate disclosure because apparently it is deltered? How can I get the content of it please and make revisions? Please note that it is not just included for the sake of profiling, rather independent sources, such as reviews from customer on their website were cross-examined with reviews by independed source, such as TrustPilot. Additionally, since they are partnered with many other organizations that are notable, so that adds further value. I accepted the article just because I had a project during my university covering parking business, so wanted to add an article related to the niche I know well. Moreover, you can see that the article do provide information about meet and greet parking, and wikipedia does not have any such information as of now if you can look up. So not only I was attempting to incorporate the company information, rather I was trying my best to include further information about meet and greet parking and what is it, and what possible options are there, as well as how it works at East Midlands Airport. Srezah (talk) 13:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Customer reviews are not reliable, since they are not fact-checked in any way, so that's not going to work. Have any high-quality sources (as some examples of reliable sources: well-reputed newspapers or magazines, academic publications in good quality journals, books by reputable publishers) written a substantial quantity of information about this company? If so, what sources are those? If not, it is not appropriate to have an article about this, and it's not going to happen. Who they partner with is not at all relevant. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Srezah: Hey, have you ever created or edited articles before this one, for which you were paid? Or do you have any other accounts? GrabUp - Talk 15:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- No, none! This was the first one! Srezah (talk) 18:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Srezah: Hey, have you ever created or edited articles before this one, for which you were paid? Or do you have any other accounts? GrabUp - Talk 15:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Customer reviews are not reliable, since they are not fact-checked in any way, so that's not going to work. Have any high-quality sources (as some examples of reliable sources: well-reputed newspapers or magazines, academic publications in good quality journals, books by reputable publishers) written a substantial quantity of information about this company? If so, what sources are those? If not, it is not appropriate to have an article about this, and it's not going to happen. Who they partner with is not at all relevant. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your detailed answer. I can post that on user page too, however, I don't have the article with me to make necessary amendments and resbumit for review with appropriate disclosure because apparently it is deltered? How can I get the content of it please and make revisions? Please note that it is not just included for the sake of profiling, rather independent sources, such as reviews from customer on their website were cross-examined with reviews by independed source, such as TrustPilot. Additionally, since they are partnered with many other organizations that are notable, so that adds further value. I accepted the article just because I had a project during my university covering parking business, so wanted to add an article related to the niche I know well. Moreover, you can see that the article do provide information about meet and greet parking, and wikipedia does not have any such information as of now if you can look up. So not only I was attempting to incorporate the company information, rather I was trying my best to include further information about meet and greet parking and what is it, and what possible options are there, as well as how it works at East Midlands Airport. Srezah (talk) 13:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, you'll need to then do that on your user page appropriately, but you're certainly making the effort there, so I'll credit that well enough. So far as the rest: Articles are not a "company profile", and contrary to what you seem to think, no, Wikipedia is not for anything like that. Rather, articles are encyclopedia articles, written in a neutral tone based upon reliable and independent sources, not sources like the company's own website. We're not interested in what the company has to say about itself, but rather what high-quality sources completely unaffiliated with it verify about it. For the vast majority of companies, the answer is "Such sources haven't said very much at all", and in that case, we should not have an article about that company. You can find specific guidelines at the general notability guideline, and for companies, also at the stricter notability guidelines for organizations. If the company doesn't pass those (and, as above, most don't), there should not be any article about it. Does such reference material exist about the company you propose to write about?Additionally, note that it is not acceptable to spam stuff about it into other articles, either, as you did here.[1] Paid editors should not directly edit mainspace articles. Rather, you would suggest your edit on the talk page, then place {{edit COI}} above your proposed change so that an editor without a conflict of interest can review your proposal. I can already tell you that an edit which includes external links in the article text would not be accepted; articles should not have inline external links in the article body. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Final chance to make the disclosures. If you keep pushing at "retrieving" it without doing that, I will block you for undisclosed paid editing. I linked to how to make them above, but just for good clarity, I will do so again; this is the documentation for the disclosures for paid editors. Those disclosures are, without exception, mandatory. Seraphimblade Talk to me 12:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply and assistance. Sorry for bothering you much, but could you please be kind to let me know how should I retrieve my article, so that I include the disclosure and resubmit for review? Also, if you think any sections need editing, please let me know. Srezah (talk) 12:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- If this is a "freelance gig", you are engaged in paid editing. While that is not forbidden, paid editors are required to make some disclosures, as detailed here. Your next edit must be to either make these disclosures, or request assistance with doing so. If it is anything aside from that, you will be blocked from editing. Seraphimblade Talk to me 12:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Disclosure
[edit]This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Midlands Parking Ltd for their contributions to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Midlands_Parking_Ltd&oldid=1243529332.
@Seraphimbiade @Liz @Grabup Srezah (talk) 12:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)