User talk:Spetel

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Recent edit to Margaret Sanger

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Margaret Sanger, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! — Ruyter (talk • edits) 17:30, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My reply, as was posted on your talk page as well:

You reverted my edit, saying I didn't cite a reliable source. But everything I added was already supported in evidence and sources within the same wiki page itself - and I referenced to the appropriate section: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Margaret_Sanger&stable=0#Eugenics

Which talks about her support for eugenics as well as her claim that she supported reducing birth rate for lower income families.

I did put it in a link in my addition, to the word eugenics:

This claim as well as her opinions in favor of eugenics such as reducing birth rates for lower income families, are often used to support this highly controversial point of view.

You mention there is no reliable source - please explain, no source for what part of my edit? There is a whole section on her support for eugenics. I linked to it. You can't argue against that since it is in the page itself.

Please reconsider, either bring back my edit, provide another comparable text, or explain specifically which part of my edit is wrong or lacking a reliable source. And if you do think there is no reliable source for my edit, please explain how this entire section is still on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Margaret_Sanger&stable=0#Eugenics

Otherwise, you are just proving the point that this page is very biased and unreliable.

I'm just trying to get rid of some of the heavy bias tone in this article. Keeping it as is only hurts wikipedia's reputation IMHO. Spetel (talk) 17:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

January 2019

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GAB^gab 20:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pro-abortion violence (January 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This is not about a recognised issue of "Pro-abortion violence" - sources are about one incident of an idiot. It appears to be Original research - assertions that "kidnapping, stalking, assault, attempted murder, and murder" are being done base on no sources. Assertions that "Incidents of pro-abortion violence often go unreported".

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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KylieTastic (talk) 21:03, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Spetel! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! KylieTastic (talk) 21:03, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pro-abortion violence (January 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Buidhe was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The article was deleted in 2015: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pro-abortion violence. While there may be news coverage of individual incidents, it doesn't seem that there is enough coverage of the phenomenon in general for a list, per WP:NOTNEWS. Articles for individual incidents may be created if they meet WP:NEVENT.

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buidhe (formerly Catrìona) ^{nach buidhe dhut?} _{na rinn mi} 22:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pro-abortion violence (January 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by StraussInTheHouse was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

There is an anti-abortion violence article and that is not considered a violation of WP:NOTNEWS because much of its content describes the motives behind those who perpetrate it as a whole. Flesh that out, in addition to removing biased phrases like "once again" and trimming to conform to WP:NPOV, and the article should be ready to go.

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SITH (talk) 18:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pro-abortion violence (January 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by David.moreno72 were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Previous issues about claims not being supported by the references have still not been addressed. Multiple references regarding a claim are not necessary and should be removed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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David.moreno72 00:23, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David, thank you for your review. I am not sure what needs to be done based on your review, could you point out some specifics? You wrote: Previous issues about claims not being supported by the references have still not been addressed. I added more sources, all of which are from reliable, unbiased local news media or reputable news outlets. Can you be more specific which claim specifically is not supported by a reference? Perhaps I can either change it or add a reference to support it.

You also wrote: Multiple references regarding a claim are not necessary and should be removed. I don't understand, either I have too few or too many references... how does having multiple references counts as a bad thing?

I'd appreciate if you could get into specifics a bit, that would help a lot! Thanks. Spetel (talk) 15:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Pro-abortion violence

Hello, Spetel. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Pro-abortion violence".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CptViraj (📧) 10:11, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]