User talk:Speednat/Archive/2010/Jul

Bird taxonomy

Hi speednat, sorry if my comments came across as pointed, but significant changes to a prominent part of a featured article need to be discussed first. I was a bit perturbed to discover this non-consensus change had been in place for months before anyone caught it. Anyway, the main problem with the change is that it attempts to shoehorn phylogenetic taxonomic scheme into an infobox designed for Linnaean taxonomy, and arbitrarily mixed the two. TOL web's phylogeny is correct, but as you may notice it does not use ranks like class or phylum. So placing Theropoda as an unranked clade not only contradicts the corresponding box in the Theropoda article, leaving Aves as a class is self-contradictory. The infobox should either make all the traditionally ranked taxa rankless, including Aves, or stick with the traditional paraphyletic taxa. There have been pushes in the past to either replace the taxobox with a "phylobox" or add a phylogenetic section, so maybe you're efforts could be used towards that.MMartyniuk (talk) 01:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Just in case you're not watching my talk page, while capitalisation is good, what worried me were the name changes to some of the common names - I didn't want them to get fixed into the article without discussion. Probably I shouldn't have reverted but waited for others' input on that. Kahuroa (talk) 02:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]