User talk:Spc73

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Hello, Spc73, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Polish Saint Patrick's Day, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 03:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Polish Saint Patrick's Day

The article Polish Saint Patrick's Day has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

I can't find any sources for this. Hoax warning.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 03:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Proposed Deletion: Polish Saint Patrick's Day

Thank you for your explanation, but I am afraid that it just confirms that the article is, sadly, against the site's rules. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion) and Wikipedia:Notability. You can ask for the page to be moved to your userspace (Wikipedia:Userfication), but it will not be very google'able; in the end, Wikipedia is simply not the place for this type of a promotion. You are welcome to create articles that fit the site's criteria, and edit others, and I hope you now understand why we cannot accept this submission. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:24, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Chad Perrone

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A tag has been placed on Chad Perrone requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.clubpassim.org/club/chad-perrone-3. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 15:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

August 2017

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Chad Perrone, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 15:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 15:16, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to remove speedy deletion notices from pages you created yourself, as you did at Chad Perrone, you may be blocked from editing. KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 15:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Spc73. I'm Wiae. I've been a Wikipedia editor for a while. I noticed you are trying to create a new article on Chad Perrone, but you have been removing the big red box at the top of the article that talks about "speedy deletion". Please don't remove that box from the article. Its purpose is to flag the article so that an administrator can review the article to check for possible issues.

Right now there are two main issues with the article:

it contains material copied from other websites, which contravenes Wikipedia's copyright policy; and
it is written in a very promotional tone, and not in the neutral tone of an encyclopedia. Put another way, the article looks like it is written to promote the subject. That's something we want to avoid on Wikipedia.

These are the issues an administrator will look for when they assess the article. It may be deleted as a result.

I hope this helps you understand the purpose of the box. Here's what you could do:

you could rewrite the material in your own words by paraphrasing.
you could remove the glowing praise of Perrone's work. Things like "well known for his unique brand" do not belong in an encyclopedia.
Lastly, you should find references to reliable sources that have covered Perrone's work in significant detail. These are the backbone of any encyclopedia article, and a subject that hasn't seen coverage in reliable sources will generally not be fit for its own article.

Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 15:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Spc73: It looks like you removed the big red box from the article again. Please don't remove the box. You could end up blocked from editing Wikipedia if you continue to remove the box, as it could be considered disruptive editing. The proper thing to do here is to leave the box where it is and instead focus on fixing the issues I addressed above. Thank you, /wiae /tlk 15:31, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok...I am new. I deleted the box by mistake. Is this am actual person or a bot?

@Spc73: Hi, that's okay. We were all new at one point or another. I am a real person. Some of the messages you got above were standard-form templates. They are a little impersonal, so I thought I would drop you a line in person.

The article contains a lot of material that is copied from http://www.clubpassim.org/club/chad-perrone-3. This might sound a little strange, but on Wikipedia we don't allow material to be copied from the vast majority of websites and pasted into an article. That's detailed in Wikipedia's copyright policy. What you can do instead is use the sources you have found as references, but rewrite the essence of those sources in your own words. That is how basically all the encyclopedia articles on Wikipedia are written: we find sources and summarize what they say in our own words. If you rewrite the article in your own words, that will be an important first step. Make sure that you neutrally describe Perrone and his accomplishments; it is tempting to say things like calling Perrone a "local favorite" or describing his "emotive tenor voice", but these are subjective qualities that can sound like promotion. It is better to just report neutrally on what sources have said. Something like "Source X called Person Y's latest work "a great example of Z" is a good way to describe the critical reception without venturing too far into promotional language.

The next issue would be the lack of references. I mentioned this above, but encyclopedia articles need to rely on a variety of reliable sources that are independent of the subject and that discuss the subject in significant detail. It seems like there may be some sources out there, as you mention Alternative Addiction, Blast Magazine, and Inner Ear Media in the article. What you should do is find those sources that discuss Perrone and add them to the article. References from reputable sources are always best: things like newspapers, well-known magazines, books, etc.

Finally, on Wikipedia we have a sort of threshold for musicians, or a list of criteria to help us decide which musicians merit their own article. You can read about those criteria here. If Perrone doesn't meet any of those criteria, it will be hard to justify having an article about him. However, if he does meet one of them, then you should find a source that says so, as that will go a long way to help establish the article.

If the article is deleted before you have a chance to work on it, you would be welcome to start a draft at User:Spc73/Chad Perrone and work on it there. Just keep in mind that you can't copy and paste material from other sources directly into Wikipedia. Write it in your own words, or use a small quote where appropriate.

I hope this is helpful. Let me know if you have further questions. /wiae /tlk 15:50, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]