User talk:Sotakarhu

A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	Wow! Thank you so much for fixing the Dec 9, 1948 flight in Spaceflight before 1951! Neopeius (talk) 13:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you!

As promised. Welcome to the team, and thank you for continuing the clean-up efforts! 1951 and 1952 should be in pretty good shape. 1953 and 1954 are fair. I haven't touched 1955-1965.

If you're more interested in clean-up than creation, you might want to leave 1955 -> alone for the time being.

On the other hand, if you do like writing, they would be ripe for expansion. Let me know, and we can coordinate.
Neopeius (talk) 13:03, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good deeds get rewarded

		The Featured List Medal
		For your work on the Timeline of spaceflight! Neopeius (talk) 17:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spaceflight Colors

Rockets
V-2 (UK)	Rocket metallic	#8a7f8d
V-2 (US)	Cool gray	#9090c0
Bumper	Gray-green	#5e716a
Viking	Blue - 50%	#0000ff
Vanguard	75%	#8080ff
Vanguard (X-248)	85%	#b3b3ff
Aerobee RTV-N-8	American Blue - 50%	#5b59a6
Aerobee RTV-N-10	30%	#363663
Aerobee RTV-N-10b/c	50%	#5b59a6
Aerobee RTV-N-10a	70%	#9c9cc9
Aerobee Hi (NRL)	85%	#cecde4
Aerobee XASR-SC-1	US Army Green - 30%	#646e2b
Aerobee XASR-SC-2	50%	#a7b847
Aerobee RTV-A-1	SkyBlue - 50%	#25a7da
Aerobee RTV-A-1b/c	70%	#7ccae9
Aerobee RTV-A-1a	40%	#1e85ae
Aerobee Hi (USAF)	50%	#25a7da
Aerobee AJ10-27/34	70%	#7ccae9
Aerobee (Unknown)	85%	#bee5f4
Deacon Rockoon (SUI)	Sky blue (Crayola)	#80daeb
Deacon Rockoon (NRL)	Robin egg blue - 40%	#00cccc
Loki Rockoon	60%	#33ffff
Deacon-Loki Rockoon	85%	#b3ffff
Farside	85%	#b3ffff
Nike-Nike-T40-T55	DeepSkyBlue - 50%	#00bfff
Nike-Deacon	70%	#66d9ff
Nike-Nike-Tri-Deacon-T40	85%	#b3ecff
Nike-Cajun	30%	#007399
Terrapin	40%	#0099cc
Nike-Asp	(not great)	#1c98b0
Nike-Apache	40%	#0099cc
Arcon	50%	#00bfff
Nike-Nike-Cajun	70%	#66d9ff
Terrier-ASROC-Cajun	85%	#b3ecff
Nike-Nike-Recruit	50%	#00bfff
Kisha-Judi	50%	#00bfff
Nike-Yardbird	70%	#66d9ff
Hugo	85%	#b3ecff
Ute-Apache	50%	#00bfff
Paiute-Apache	70%	#66d9ff
X-17	Blue Green - 50%	#828b74
Polaris FTV-5	65%	#a8ae9e
Polaris FTV-3	80%	#cdd1c7
HJ-Nike	Honest John Red - 30%	#971e02
HJ-Nike-Nike (Boa)	50%	#f93004
Exos	40%	#c92703
Jason / Trailblazer-1	60%	#fc5a36
HJ-Nike-Nike-20"SM	65%	#fc6f4f
Javelin	70%	#fd8468
Strongarm	85%	#fec1b4
Jupiter-C / Juno I / SPARTA	US Army Green - 40%	#859339
SM-78 Jupiter	30%	#646e2b
Juno II	50%	#a7b847
Redstone-Mercury (MRLV)	60%	#b8c66c
ASCAMP		#ffffff
Terrier-Asp		#ffffff
Terrier-Asp-IV		#ffffff
SM-75 Thor	SteelBlue - 30%	#2b506e
Thor Able / Agena-A	50%	#4785b8
Thor Able-1/2	60%	#6c9dc6
SM-75A Thor	40%	#396a93
Thor Able-2 (mod)	70%	#91b6d4
Thor Able-3	80%	#b6cee2
SM-75C Thor	80%	#b6cee2
Thor Able-4	90%	#dae7f1
XSM-65A Atlas	Atlas Gray - 30%	#3f4d5a
XSM-65B Atlas	40%	#556677
XSM-65C Atlas	50%	#6a8095
SM-65D Atlas	60%	#8899aa
V-2 (Soviet)	Puce	#cc8899
R-1	Brown - 30%	#7a1f1f
R-1A/V	50%	#cb3434
R-1B	70%	#e08585
A-1	50%	#cb3434
R-1D/E	70%	#e08585
R-1UK	85%	#efc2c2
R-2E	Dark Orange - 30%	#994700
R-2	50%	#ff7700
R-2A	70%	#ffad66
R-5	Soviet Yellow - 20%	#665000
R-5M	30%	#997800
R-5RD/A	40%	#cca000
R-5R/V	50%	#ffc800
R-5B	70%	#ffde66
R-5 VAO	85%	#ffeeb3
R-7	R-7 Green - 41%	#8e9a39
Sputnik (8K71PS/8A91) / R-7A	50%	#acba45
Vostok-L		#ffffff
R-12	Yellow Brown - 30%	#996600
Veronique-NA	Bleu de France - 55%	#318ce7
Veronique-AGI	Bleu de France - 55%	#318ce7
Veronique-61		#ffffff
Vesta		#ffffff
Veronique-61M		#ffffff
Long Tom	Austr. Wattle - 45%	#e8af00
Skylark (Raven 1/2C)	British Khaki - 40%	#7d6b4f
Skylark (Raven 2)	30%	#5e513b
Skylark (Raven 5C)	50%	#9d8662
Skylark (Raven 5)	60%	#b09e82
Skylark (Raven 7C)	70%	#c4b7a1
Skylark (Raven 7)	80%	#d8cfc0

Countries

United States (old)	Blue	#0000ff
United States	American Blue	#484785
United States	US Army Green	#4b5320
United States	Sky Blue	#87ceeb
Soviet Union	Brown	brown
France (old)	Amethyst	#9966CC
France	French Blue	#318CE7
Australia	Austr. Wattle	#e8af00
United Kingdom (unused)	Tan 30-80	tan
United Kingdom	British Khaki	#beaf97
China	red	#ff0000
Japan	white	#ffffff
India	darkorange (old)	#ff8c00
India	India Orange	#ff9933
Europe	navy (old)	#000080
Europe	ESA blue	#0e2180
Iran	darkgreen (old)	#006400
Iran	Iran green	#239F40
Israel	teal	#008080
North Korea	crimson (old)	#dc143c
North Korea	pink	#ffc0cb
Canada	#fe6f5e (old)	#fe6f5e
Canada	OrangeRed	#ff4500
Netherlands	#91a3b0	#91a3b0
Turkey	#7c3030	#7c3030
Ukraine	Yellow (old)	#ffff00
Ukraine	Ukraine Yellow	#ffd700
South Korea	Purple	#800080
Brazil	Green (old)	#008000
Brazil	Brazil Green	#009c3b
Germany	Dust grey	#7c7f7e

I love the way you've arranged this table. Why don't you pick some colors (I think my scheme was pretty clear) and I can see what you come up with. :) --Neopeius (talk) 02:02, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(some variety of light blue for the Air Force, dark blue for the Navy, green for the Army, red for the Russkies -- I probably should have picked a distinctive national color for Veronique but "Bleu de France" was just too cute to pass up! I tend to like purples for the UK, but you can set any precedent you like. It's also probably okay to reuse colors once a rocket is retired. There are only so many distinctive ones.

You know the Aerobee 'A's are Air Force, not Army, right? ;) --Sotakarhu (talk) 21:11, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where the test will really come is when you make the next graph. I tried to pick colors that were thematically similar but differentiable. I'm a bit color blind so colors look different to me. What may be easily distinguished for you may not be for me (and vice versa). I'll let you know. :) Hope that helps! --Neopeius (talk) 12:47, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I like your color schemes a lot. My only concern thus far is that Polynesian and Persian Blue look identical to me. That's only an issue if you have those same colors on the same graph, though. --Neopeius (talk) 18:01, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They are identical. ('Polynesian' and 'Persian' were your original colors, this is a different one, I just haven't updated the table text) The rockets don't overlap in the same year. What do you think about the darker American Blue to represent the United States, especially in the pie chart in 1955? I could lighten it a shade, to say #484785, which might look better. Too much more and it starts to look purple.

From a modified 2020 for more context:

Lighter American Blue:

And rearranged in a non-alphabetical order roughly associated with space program seniority, and a few other adjusted colors:

Back in the saddle

Hello, Michael!

At long last, I'm finally getting some time to devote to WP again. My plan is to do the article for 1956 in Spaceflight, then 1957 in Spaceflight, then Sputnik 2 and any Vanguard launches that need upgrading to B status. Then it's on to 1958 in Spaceflight and all the orbital launches that year. If you haven't done the table for 1958, this would be a great time. :)

Thank you for your patience. I've been busy writing a book, which I just finished today... --Neopeius (talk) 20:31, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see you're still adding stuff to the articles! Thank you for your diligence and Happy Thanksgiving. :) I'm about a third through the 1956 draft, and I took a detour to finish R-2 (missile). --Neopeius (talk) 14:55, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, been busy the last year, but I have a few min here and there now Sotakarhu (talk) 01:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm finally doing substantive improvements. My plan is to submit 1952 in spaceflight for FA because I want to get you The Featured List Medal (awarded for contributing to three FL!—you've earned it). I am also working on 1956 in spaceflight, at long last, but I'm taking a quick detour through Sputnik 2, which I've substantially improved and plan to get to B this weekend, and GA soon. Thanks for your patience, and hope you're doing well!--Neopeius (talk) 21:44, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thank you Sotakarhu (talk) 23:19, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]