User talk:Sonia.A.Ibrahim

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The Syrian Jews of Aleppo moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, The Syrian Jews of Aleppo, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 11:24, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

yes sorry i usualy work from my sandbox this time I forgot.

Thanks Sonia.A.Ibrahim (talk) 11:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Sonia.A.Ibrahim

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Sonia.A.Ibrahim, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be advertising which only promotes or publicises someone or something. Promotional editing of any kind is not permitted, whether it be promotion of a person, company, product, group, service, belief, or anything else. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

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Contested deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --Sonia.A.Ibrahim (talk) 12:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The way you framed your userpage, that looked promotional. It was like you promoting yourself. So it was deleted. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 12:58, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with this. I put a description of my work so the user page would be more valid. I do not think Wikipedia is the place to promote my self. I have LinkedIn. But since the user page was some how to interduce my self to the Wikipedia community I put my work and publication and cited my publication.

I saw other username pages and it was mentioning their work like I did. Sonia.A.Ibrahim (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am an architect and I am doing my master's degree in Italy.

As part of my course "Digital history" at Padua University, I created my page in order to get credits. I am not advertising anyone. I put a description of my work and myself on my page. Please do not delete my page or I will fail the course. I am not advertising anyone and there is no ground for that accusation. I did not publish anything till now. I wanted to publish a paper from my course and I was working in my sandbox but by mistake, I published it or public. However, It has been moved for drafts and no harm was done. Therefore, I could not actually advertise to anyone because I did not publish anything. Thanks for your understanding and I hope you take my situation in a fair manner. Thanks

But madam, your userpage read like promotion. You might be speaking about yourself, but the tone you used was promotional. You used too many 'peacock terms' that triggered the filter. Now see, I might be wrong. But a wikipedia adminstrator deleted the userpage. Adminstrators, you might know are really experienced users, and they are rarely wrong in their decision. While nominating your user page for deletion, I read it thoroughly, and it met WP:U5 and WP:G11. I am also pinging the deletion admin here. Anthony Bradbury Could you please explain take time to explain her why her user page read like promotion.

@Sonia.A.Ibrahim, I will also be talking to other friend adminstrators, and try and get the text of the deleted user page. I don't remember how your user page went. When I acquire the text, I hope I will be able to explain you, why the page was deleted. Till then, continue working for your project adhering to all the guidelines. Best, Itcouldbepossible^Talk 07:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sonia. As an administrator, I found myself pinged on the page of your course tutor, then found a discussion about your userpage also going on here. So let me explain the problem. It's a small one, but I'm afraid it got your userpage deleted for good reason, but I think it can be resolved. In essence, we do not permit a userpage to resemble an encyclopaedia entry that you might find in the main part of Wikipedia. Your WP:USERPAGE is there for you to say a little about yourself, your expertise and your interest in editing Wikipedia. I did take a look at the deleted content, and I'd like to offer my suggestion, which requires Sonia to write in the first person tense, not in the third person, like a LinkedIn page or a CV.

Hi, I'm Sonia. I'm an architect and urban researcher with an interest in urban heritage and the recovery of post-war historic cities. I did my masters degree on post-war recovery of World Heritage cities in Syria, and for the last 19 years I've work as a conservation architect at the Directorate General of Antiquities and Museums in Syria. I also teach at Damascus University on topics relevant to historic preservation. I've published a few research papers, and if you're really interested, you can find them listed here.

I'm now a student at Padua University, and have enrolled in the course Wikipedia:GLAM/UNIPD/Digital History, so I created this page as my first exercise. My course tutor for this is xxxxxxxxxx

I'm new to Wikipedia, but am hoping to learn how to merge academic knowledge into articles. Should anything I do here relate directly to my work, I will of course, declare any conflict of interest I might have. I'm bound to make a few mistakes at first, so please let me know on my talk page if you have any concerns about my editing so that we can work to improve this encyclopaedia in the best way possible.

I think something along these lines should be absolutely fine (so you're free to paste and modify it into your userpage, if you wish) and I do hope you've not been put off by what's happened. I'm afraid that with 6 million+ articles and over 30,000 active editors at any one time, we inevitably have to be very policy and guideline-driven. I also appreciate that we can't expect newcomers to understand all our myriad of rules when they start out, and that you often find out about them when someone like me comes along and says "Hey, you can't do that!" But we're here to help, too, so feel free not only to ask your course tutor questions, but also to visit the Teahouse any time day or night if you want to ask questions and get further friendly help and guidance. As a retired museum professional myself, I know how just important the GLAMWiki collaboration is, and I look forward to seeing your contributions here. Best wishes from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Thanks a lot for your kind reply. I understood the problem and I actually copy what you suggested. I am sorry for the inconvenience and or all the pings but I only contested to understand how to do it right. However, when my the problem got bigger because of the ping on my tutor page I had to explain my situation. I sincerely thank you for you explanation and thanks for taking the time. I work in a museum and I dream to have more Syrian archeological finds explained and mentioned in Wikipedia. Thus, I was happy to learn and practice. Since you are a museum professional I am happy to tell you that I am working on User:Sonia.A.Ibrahim/sandbox3 "The Aleppo room" for my exam.

The room is presented at the Pergamon Museum in Berlin. "The Aleppo room" is in red in the Museum of Islamic Art wiki page so it needs a page. I hope I do not do another mistake so the page could be published.

Best wishes from a Syrian in Italy Sonia.A.Ibrahim (talk) 18:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, Sonia. I think you are working along the right lines in your sandbox. Although my field is natural sciences, I took great pleasure in helping to bringing a few things from my own museum's collections to Wikipedia. The important thing to bear in mind is that we cannot use one-off documents in our our office filing cabinets or from our own researches - they all need to have been properly published and be available to anyone, anywhere to Verify if they wish to. Museums could do so much more by a) publishing more documents and guides as pdfs on their own websites and b) making more images available via a CC-BY-SA licence for Wikipedia and others to use. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:47, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot Nick Moyes for your wonderful explanation regarding this matter. I see, that pinging you was of great help, as our fellow editor Sonia finally is satisfied with your answer and know knows why I sent her user page for deletion. Without fail, this time too, I am mesmerized by your judgmental attitude, and the way you handle something. Really, there are lots to learn from you.

Sonia, I hope you have now understood where the things went wrong. I think, I was a little harsh with you. Sorry for that. Yes, as newcomers, following all policies, is quite a difficult task. But, if you want to continue working on this project, even after your course finishes, then you are welcome! I hope, while you edit, you will slowly start learning the guidelines.

Now, truly, I don't want to fear you off with all these. These are for you if you are interested in working with Wikipedia even after the course is over. You can start away reading with the easy ones like, the verifiability essay, the essay that provides you from using your orginial research here on Wikipedia, the essay that explains neutral point of view writing, the essay that tells you what Wikipedia is not, notability essay, from which you can know what is considered 'notable' here on Wikipedia; reliable sources, tells you, what reliable sources are, this may help you in citing sources. Start slowly. There is no need to hurry. Focus on your course, and when get time, you can read these. The teahouse as Nick Moyes, already told you, is always available to answer you questions. You can also use the refernce desk at you will, and finally, but not the least, the request for resources, where you can request for resources, when you cannot find one yourself due to paywalls, or because you don't have a subscription to access the resource. With these things, I hope you can start with you journey as an editor. Write on my talk page if you think I will be able to help you with something. Thanks and regards, Itcouldbepossible^Talk 08:23, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The Aleppo room

Thanks for your great article on The Aleppo room! Just wanted to let you know that I've given the article a quick copyedit, and I'm happy to help if you have any questions about contributing. Sam Walton (talk) 16:25, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first article which I know how to publish. Thanks a lot for the quick copyedit. Sonia.A.Ibrahim (talk) 16:39, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]