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Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Dandy Sephy (talk) 22:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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As you are a beginner I figured I would write to you directly rather than clog up a article talk page.

I've basically taken it upon myself to improve the Lupin articles so I know pretty much what each articles strengths and weaknesses are and things to look for. Outside of the main article and Castle of Cagliostro pretty much all of them need extensive work. Even the main page Lupin III is still undergoing frequent changes despite being overhauled several years ago by myself. There are pages that eventually need creating (some of which are in the process of being planned), and others that could do with merging or extensive rewriting.

Character articles are a bit of a pain it must be said but thankfully we have some good examples for you to take a look at such as Naruto Uzumaki. Himura Kenshin and Edward Elric. Don't worry too much about matching those, just get an idea of what you can work towards at a later date. The layout of those articles is what you should aim for, the amount of detail doesn't need to be on that level. Hopefully they will also give you an idea of writing style and suitable sources. You can source things from the anime or manga directly, but you can't use any interpretation at all, so you should't rely on it. The continuity issues don't really help.

It might be an idea to work on a draft in user space.

Dandy Sephy (talk) 22:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Yes, I am completely new to editing. I'm not even certain if this is how you're supposed to respond to messages. However, I looked over some other pages and copied the same editing code to get the references right. I hope it helped. In the future I'll contact you about major changes. I'd be willing to help out with manga information on any of the main characters, if needed. I like the way the pages you mentioned are set up, especially the "Appearances," section. I think that would be useful for Lupin characters considering they have anime, specials, manga, live action movies (plural as of August 2014? *hopes*), and video games.

Some questions: you said you can't rely on interpretation, do you mean translation or interpretation as in "he smiled" versus "he looked happy"? I noticed there's a lot of unsourced stuff and was wondering what the policy is on that, like does it stay until proven false? Or simply taken as an unsourced reference and left in?

Thanks for your help and I hope I can prove useful, at least for the Lupin franchise pages! :) SnowGuardian (talk) 01:37, 11 March 2014 (UTC)SnowGuardian[reply]

Two things about your sources. Firstly, while you can use ANN's news, reviews and columns as reliable sources, you can't use it's encyclopaedia as it's user edited/contributed and therefore not a Reliable Source. Secondly, what you are using them for doesn't make much sense because you are using a page with basic release information to source details of events from something. In this case you would need to refer to approximate time codes of the relevant special, episode etc. For an article of this current state, unsourced statements are low priority, they should be removed anyway but because it's not an otherwise quality article they tend to get over looked. However in this case it might simply make things easier if I cut a lot of content out that isn't sourced and then use that as a base. It will fix some other issues as well I can take a look at it in more detail later. Dandy Sephy (talk) 07:29, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]