User talk:Sja97385

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:32, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Sja97385/sandbox

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A tag has been placed on User:Sja97385/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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I'm about to log off shortly, so I can't respond in detail until tomorrow. Just some general guidance for now.

Please read the following regarding writing an article

• you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing its management.
• The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:

1. significant coverage in
2. independent,
3. multiple,
4. reliable,
5. secondary sources.

Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.

• you must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Not, for example Famous for its sweet potatoes pies or You can now find them in retail stores such...
• there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
• you must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article.

If there is anything you don't understand above after following the links, let me know, and I'll get back to you tomorrow anyway Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:26, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, more detail. I've already mention an overall non-neutral tone. Your refs include the company itself, actually probably OK for the basic history it's referencing, two YouTube links, never OK, and a link to the LA Times that I'm blocked from reading. If it's a genuinely independent piece, it might be OK, but if it's a review or includes an interview or quotes from the bakery, it's not acceptable.

For the notability, even if we accept the facts as given, it's doing what most restaurants do. An internet presence and a Spanish-language menu aren't exactly notable in LA (incidentally, you don't actually name the city in your draft). You don't tell us basic facts like the number of staff, turnover or profits, or the number of outlets its products are sold in. The only possibly notable fact is the claim that it's the largest manufacturer of sweet potatoes pies in the west coast, but I can't access the source for this, and it's unclear whether you mean west coast California, US or North America.

It's not a dreadful attempt, but it definitely needs more actual facts, better sources and less promo like They are part of Central Ave and they will continue to evolve along with it

Cheers, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:18, 9 December 2018 (UTC)