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Welcome to the 2024 WikiCup!

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Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

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all the best for the new year - something odd about [1] any thoughts? JarrahTree 10:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They seem to be a good faith newbie. Most of their edits are improvements, except the Claisebrook ones which I have fixed (although TBF, the adjacent stations template on many articles is a mess and they are probably copying from some other station article). I have now realised though that many of the Armadale line stations have not had their Adjacent stations template updated. Steelkamp (talk) 10:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the fix and explanation - always appreciated! JarrahTree 10:47, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Promotion of List of Sydney Metro stations

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Congratulations, Steelkamp! The list you nominated, List of Sydney Metro stations, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

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The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

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I would agree, but the comments I would like to make are out of order here. Trust you are keeping cool. JarrahTree 12:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No objection from me either — I was just in Perth this week (family stuff), omg it was so dry and hot! The Scarborough Beach sunset was very pretty and relaxing though. When I came back to Sydney the other day, I couldn’t deal with our humidity lol! I took a few photos of the Transperth ferries that might be nicer than the current ones used for their respective articles, I might upload them to Commons soon when I’m bothered. Fork99 (talk) 14:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JarrahTree: I realised those pages should be merged during my research for my rewriting of Rail transport in Western Australia. After rewriting that, I think I will tackle rewriting Western Australian Government Railways. @Fork99: New photos are always welcome, especially if they are an improvement on the current ones. Steelkamp (talk) 14:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
reply should be merged is your claim - I do not believe that a number of western australian instrumentalities that had various incarnations over time require a compressed single article. There are a number of iterations that deserve separate articles, otherwise the one article fits all is insufficient to explicate a range of issues. WP:AGF prevents an extended explanation. JarrahTree 00:36, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 2024 GAN backlog drive

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Good article nominations | March 2024 Backlog Drive
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WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

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The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Perth Underground railway station

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Perth Underground railway station you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 20:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Perth Underground railway station

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The article Perth Underground railway station you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Perth Underground railway station and Talk:Perth Underground railway station/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 23:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Perth Underground railway station

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The article Perth Underground railway station you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Perth Underground railway station for comments about the article, and Talk:Perth Underground railway station/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sammi Brie -- Sammi Brie (talk) 07:04, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Thornlie line

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Thornlie line you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Commander Keane -- Commander Keane (talk) 09:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Thornlie line

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The article Thornlie line you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Thornlie line for comments about the article, and Talk:Thornlie line/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Commander Keane -- Commander Keane (talk) 06:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Message from Signalscadd

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Hi Steelkamp, The temperatures for Australia in Wikipedia showing the highest being in 1960 is incorrect. That’s false adverting. Sorry to say. As mentioned there are a number of high temp going back to 1889 at 53.1c, 1877 at Bourke NSW, 50.8c in 1906 Mildura. These figures are in documents from the Bureau of Meteorology is the source. So what’s happened to those figures? Regards Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Signalscadd (talk • contribs) 08:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Signalscadd: See my message at Talk:List of extreme temperatures in Australia#Cloncurry record. The same applies to the Bourke and Mildura records. These records are not recognised by the Bureau of Meteorology due to various problems. The official records are at [2], which shows the Australian temperature record is 50.7 C, which was recorded at Onslow and Oodnadatta. Steelkamp (talk) 09:48, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TFL notification

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Hi, Steelkampt. I'm just posting to let you know that List of Sydney Metro stations – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for April 12. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:28, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP edit

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I disagree with your edit summary, made up is hardly something that an IP with no understanding of RS and citations is likely to have as motivation - the actual information can be probably confirmed or denied by the endless metronet PR items that pop up everywhere - the whole Midland development PR machine and the reality of the very disconnected parking station (and totally ahistorical new station being built in the core of the whole states railway life from the first world war to the 1980s) JarrahTree 01:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I'm aware, there has been no public announcement or information saying that the Midland will have an extended shutdown in late 2024 and early 2025. Maybe that IP editor has some kind of insider information. Maybe they are speculating. Maybe they are just making it up. Either way, it had to be reverted. Steelkamp (talk) 02:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe , the problem with lack of knowledge on the part of the IP as to how wp works does not detract from the problem with the metronet publicity machine as a purveyor of 'what they want us to know' versus the on the track knowledge of the works in Midland - I imagine a local in Midland who reads 'the echo' on a regular basis is better placed than web based info gathering. (oops I forgot the echo is also online, and checking, does carry material of direct relevance) JarrahTree 02:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BTW congrats on getting to 15k edits! a veritable milestone in just a few edits to go! JarrahTree 02:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Looks like I've passed it now. Steelkamp (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 April newsletter

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We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

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Your GA nomination of John Tonkin

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article John Tonkin you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of GMH Melbourne -- GMH Melbourne (talk) 07:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

small problem

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with the expansion of charlie C and the JT articles - the linked to Joe Chamberlain article - created as a bare bones stub, is a problem no wonder the various stages of Joe's career are not clear to you or anyone else, he was always known as the union heavyweight (RS or no RS) and stalwart and the person to whom one needed to be on side with. The JC article does a disservice to the politics of the 60s, as much as the Bessie Rischbeith and Mounts Bay Road articles are inadequate in the explanation of the reclamation issues on the north west corner of Perth Water... however a very helpful adb item exists (https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/chamberlain-francis-edward-joe-12304 bobbies version) and if read carefully should address your uncertainty as to the power wielder that he was...JarrahTree 07:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There also seems to be an autobiography, My Life and Times. The Joe Chamberlain (Australian politician) article is certainly very short comparted to the published material available. Steelkamp (talk) 08:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of John Tonkin

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The article John Tonkin you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:John Tonkin for comments about the article, and Talk:John Tonkin/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of GMH Melbourne -- GMH Melbourne (talk) 08:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bayswater Railway Station

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Hey I noticed you reverted my edits? The bus interchange is literally open right now, so why does it still use past tense? RexTransit05 (talk) 00:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RexTransit05: Your edits weren't just changing the tense. They were changing the formatting of that section as well, changing a well sourced and written paragraph into a group of unsourced and disjointed sections. Steelkamp (talk) 01:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
well if you visit Bayswater station you'll see the stands and what routes are on there. RexTransit05 (talk) 01:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Every other major station with an interchange on this Wikipedia lists the bus stands RexTransit05 (talk) 01:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's just not true. Look at Redcliffe railway station or High Wycombe railway station or Warnbro railway station or Butler railway station or Clarkson railway station. See MOS:PROSE, which says that prose is generally preferred to lists. Steelkamp (talk) 01:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Greenwood railway station

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Greenwood railway station you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of 750h+ -- 750h+ (talk) 04:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Greenwood railway station

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The article Greenwood railway station you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Greenwood railway station and Talk:Greenwood railway station/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of 750h+ -- 750h+ (talk) 05:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Greenwood railway station

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The article Greenwood railway station you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Greenwood railway station for comments about the article, and Talk:Greenwood railway station/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of 750h+ -- 750h+ (talk) 06:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

lizzies key

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hahahah - you think that grammar matters (?), I patrol an adjacent countries articles sporadically, and you and mitch could have a field day and a whole year of editing on things like that ... JarrahTree 12:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 May newsletter

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The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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primary topic

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I am probably very wrong, but it seems always better to live in disambig than primary topic, it has caused some very bad blood in the past, in the local project - however simple it might seem... JarrahTree 10:52, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BTw - really great work on the stations - it is a long way in time since the pathetic poorly done stubs on the perth lines were 'played with' via a range of rather spare sources and all - well done, and thanks. JarrahTree 13:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Ellenbrook railway station (disambiguation)

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Template:Transperth railway network diagram

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Please look at {{Transperth railway network diagram/Zoned}} and give me your opinion. Useddenim (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Useddenim: Only error I can see is that Canning Bridge station should be in zone 1, not zone 2. Steelkamp (talk) 02:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The {{Transperth railway network diagram/Zoned}} template will be put up at TfD if you don't want it to replace the current version (without the zones). Useddenim (talk) 22:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 July newsletter

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The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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by now

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there should be enough info for an article on finbar? from somewhere in the last 10 years I am sure I have unloaded pics of the main persons involved, but not easy to get though... Good work on the south perth skyscraper btw... JarrahTree 06:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

see! the move didnt take that long after all... JarrahTree 01:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A request

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Hi Steelkamp, I noticed you created Template:Thornlie line and wondered if you could do something similar for the former Donnybrook–Katanning railway? I found this source (page 9-10) which has the sidings and distances listed. It seems to be sourced from old time tables. I presume the distances are in miles, given that it is from a UK source. I had a look at the code for the route map template and it looks quite complicated, above my skill level. I'm not expecting you to make up the whole thing, if you could just have the start (Donnybrook) and end station (Katanning) and two in betweens (Yabberup & Glen Mervyn), I'm hopeful I can add the others once I see how it is done. If you feel up to the task, just place it in User:Calistemon/Sandbox1, and I will take it from there. No rush and no obligation, just if you feel like you got a bit of time. Calistemon (talk) 04:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I would be happy to do that. I recently learned how to make those route diagrams just so I can make more of them. There is a better source available for distances, at https://pta.wa.gov.au/Portals/15/AA_DOCUMENTS/Our_system/Freight%20network/PTA%20Rail%20Network%20Map_2019.pdf which I will use. Steelkamp (talk) 04:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! The map you linked to is phantastic! Sadly, it doesn't seem to cover the stations/sidings between Donnybrook and Wilga. Calistemon (talk) 04:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also found this 1952 map and this handy list of stations. Calistemon (talk) 05:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Needless to say the pta material is ahistorical whereas the geoproject item is probably the most definitive source possible for wa items. However the item has a major problem compared to the national item now almost 25 years gone -https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/35620594?keyword=australian%20railway%20routes - whereas geoproject has locations coords, it doesnt have closing dates like quinlan and newland... JarrahTree 05:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Calistemon: I've done as much as I want to do. I haven't done the distances for Yowungup, Noggerup, or Goonac, so feel free to do the calculations for that yourself. Other than that, the template is pretty much complete. Steelkamp (talk) 16:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, I can take it from there. Much appreciated! Calistemon (talk) 16:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have completed the template and used it in the expanded article. Thanks again for your help. Calistemon (talk) 09:10, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you put the very useful info about the issues of the wheatbelt lines somewhere central? There are network wide issues there, and just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagin_to_Newdegate_railway_line is undue and is relevent to the rest of the wheatbelt lines (created, and yet to be created)(unless you added the same to each of the lines). Thanks for your help with this, as individual lines are in flux as they are expanded and added to, and there is relative chaos as to naming the lines. Cheers. JarrahTree 09:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That info is going to be on my long running rewrite of Rail transport in Western Australia, which is currently located at User:Steelkamp/sandbox 3. Some of that info is currently in main space on Arc Infrastructure and CBH Group as well.
Nonetheless, I think that information is relevant on the railway line articles as well. I see the ownership and operations to be important basic facts pertinent to individual railway lines. If you're worried about that info only being on one article, I intend on adding it to the others as well. Steelkamp (talk) 02:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Applogies for butting in but could the article you are working on include a list of current and historic railway lines in WA? This is something that is really lacking, I feel. In Category:Lists of railway lines by country Australia seems completely absent, to say nothing about Western Australia. I think, a detailed list with name, opening and closing date, track gauge, construction company and past and present owners would be a big step forward. Maybe you got one hidden away in another sandbox of yours? Calistemon (talk) 02:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could do that, probably as a separate page titled List of railway lines in Western Australia. Steelkamp (talk) 04:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Its a big ask but it would be a great addition! Calistemon (talk) 05:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly suggest that we have lots of problems with a single list - there are the very early private railways - then there was the WAR and the range of the WAGR lines - but the GSR and Midland although absorbed by the WAGR in time were extended entities quite seperate, and now the whole of the North West array - and the very quirkly range of timber lines well treated by gunzburg and austin - to me as a list smells of requiring too many explanations required to have in one list..
Re the operator/owner things, considering the lack of adequate specific articles about lines not yet written about, the actual issue was with the same info being repeated over and over in the lines (there are quite few not yet written) - rather than repeating the owner/operator/issues that you raised at the wagin to whatever article, surely there is a single location for the operational quirks of operator/owner things.(sorry have just arrived on the computer after a funeral, if I have not expressed clearly enough, can try again) JarrahTree 07:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are in fact sources that list all of Western Australia's railway lines, such as Quinlan, Howard; Newland, John R. (2000). Australian Railway Routes 1854 to 2000. Australian Railway Historical Society, New South Wales Division. ISBN 978-0-909650-49-0., which a list on Wikipedia could be modelled on.
Repeated info is just something that will inevitably happen. Stating the changes in ownership is just part of the basic facts that should be on a railway line article, and should be repeated on all relevant articles. Steelkamp (talk) 08:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the now 25 year old information from a tother side from Sydney is appealing, I would be very reluctant to support the idiosyncracies that have been identified in that format, and even less to to model a table against. I still maintain that a listing of the 'total' of the identifiable railway lines from 1870s to present should not be in a single list, but would be better in separate identifiable areas and eras. I think it is a health hazard for editors to have a large one size fits all list, and would recommend separation (ok in part something like Quinlan but not with the invented numbers and all) into areas and eras, where the editing does not become problematic. JarrahTree 09:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have not been paying attention

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But there's something fishy about [3] but then as I say I have not been paying attention. Any thoughts? JarrahTree 10:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. That station is definitely not under construction so I have nominated it for deletion. Steelkamp (talk) 15:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
sorry if some my messages seem odd at times... JarrahTree 12:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sydney rail lists

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I've been meaning to congratulate you for reformatting the List of Sydney Trains railway stations to improve it to the same standard as the List of Sydney Metro stations. It definitely took a lot of determination to do the entire table! If you have any time (although I see you're focused on WA transport), it would be awesome if you could also reformat the List of NSW TrainLink railway stations so that all three tables for the entire NSW system are standardised. Thanks again! Hlmrjk (talk) 05:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind comments Hlmrjk. I'm planning on doing List of Sydney Trains railway stations next, but I will do List of NSW TrainLink railway stations after that. Luckily the station opening dates in New South Wales are well covered, thanks to this thesis. Steelkamp (talk) 03:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Arab migrations to the Maghreb

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Arab migrations to the Maghreb has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 20:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

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FAC reminder

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Howdy! I don't mean to rush, but did you have a chance to look at the fixes I did in response to your FAC review for Stephenson? TY very much for your review and your time as always! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of John Tonkin

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Congratulations, Steelkamp! The article you nominated, John Tonkin, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
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Precious anniversary

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Precious
Two years!

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Your GA nomination of Leederville railway station

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Your GA nomination of Leederville railway station

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The article Leederville railway station you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Leederville railway station and Talk:Leederville railway station/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Mertbiol -- Mertbiol (talk) 17:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Leederville railway station

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The article Leederville railway station you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Leederville railway station for comments about the article, and Talk:Leederville railway station/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Mertbiol -- Mertbiol (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

maybe needs a review?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_suburbs_(Perth)&oldid=997647739. has been played with quite a lot since you started it - maybe it needs a review? JarrahTree 13:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately the western suburbs aren't really well defined and that list is currently unsourced. Perhaps the list could be shortened to just the suburbs within the seven local government areas at the start of that page, which would remove North Fremantle, Scarborough and Churchlands. I don't really have the time or will to work on that right now or find a good source for that list. Steelkamp (talk) 04:08, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
your preference to take the northern/yanchep merge to trains rather than oz transport - I am outta there, that is like... nah forget it. JarrahTree 04:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did that because I wanted more people commenting on the merge discussion, particularly from outside the small bubble that would usually comment there. Steelkamp (talk) 06:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
haha - small bubble - indeed, I will refrain from on wiki comment about that... hahah JarrahTree 11:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I remember you have aspirations for the articleRail_transport_in_Western_Australia (unless your real life name is fred affleck in which case...), there is a book being launched this weekend called Rails in the West, as in (https://www.margaretriverbookshop.com.au/p/rails-in-the-west-how-western-australia-s-government-railway-shaped-the-state-1870-2000) FYI... JarrahTree 05:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be sure to check that book out. Steelkamp (talk) 06:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
pity you are anonymous - I could have lent you my copy - very interesting it is very closely linked with - Affleck, Fred N; Clark, Bill; Western Australian Government Railways Commission (1978), On track : the making of Westrail, 1950 to 1976, Westrail, ISBN 978-0-7244-7560-5 but the detail is complex about that... JarrahTree 11:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_Transport

and https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board

I must concur, very odd bubbles, to say the least. JarrahTree 06:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 November newsletter

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Byford railway station

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Hi Steelkamp, what are your thoughts on the Byford railway station article? I was out there this morning, having breakfast at Dome, and took a few photos of the construction of the new station. The current article, coordinates wise, points at the old platform, which is about 900 metres further south. Given that the old platform wouldn't have been in use for a while, should the position and article be updated to reflect the future? Calistemon (talk) 04:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Calistemon: I think the coordinates should be updated to the site of the new station. Do you know if the old station is demolished? I'm not sure how to describe the station in the lead, whether it's a "temporarily closed station" or an "under-construction station", but I'm leaning towards the latter. Byford station is not like Armadale station or some other stations, where the new station is in a different location to the old station. Steelkamp (talk) 05:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By reports in the metronet material and other sources, the old australind stopping place will be exterminated without prejudice if it hasnt been already, and as result imho the new site should carry the coords, unless like Meckering the difference between the two station sites are worth recording due to the distance between the previous and the new, and that there were substantial or notable remnants at the old. JarrahTree 06:29, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's doing it too much honour to call the platform there a station. I didn't go to see whether the old platform is still there or not but I can't imagine its got a future use. Calistemon (talk) 12:19, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The old station was gone by the 1980s, the australind stopping place could never be called a station in any way JarrahTree 12:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Poll_Bludger_(2nd_nomination) for deletion

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