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US Divisions & Brigades

Hi Shrike, thanks to all your info I was able to do an extensive update and a standardization of all the US Divisions & Brigades. Tonight I will start updating the graphics. If you have the time, please have a look and check the below listed units for any error that might have slipped in. thanks, --noclador (talk) 09:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Army

Army National Guard

N, sorry its taking me so long to respond. There's a bunch of errors concerning the combat Aviation Brigades. I'll start fixing them as I get a chance.

169th FiB

You just added the 2-130th FA as a subordinate unit to the 169th. What's your source for this? I certainly haven't heard anything about it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:30, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ausa.org/programs/torchbearer/Documents/TB_Fires_2009LOWRES_300909.pdf Why what's your source?Shrike6 (talk) 03:56, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fires Brigades and US Army Divisions

It is true that the only organic unit of every division is its HQ (including the Special Troops Battalion), which means that every BCT and CAB under a division can be pulled out from the division and attached to any other division for an operation. But the brigades are part of the divisions - this chain of command is also evidenced by the shoulder patches the brigades soldiers wear: it is always the patch of the division their brigade is a part of (even if the brigade is under operational control of another division on deployment). However the Fires Brigades are not part of any division! There are 10 divisions and 7 fires brigades and the fires brigades are independent units, they are modular support brigades, that have their own shoulder patch and can be assigned to whatever division needs fire support. While the sustainment brigades also support the divisions in peacetime, all the fires brigades are independent units: they neither support a division, nor are they part of a division. They are connected to some division for training and readiness purposes, but they do not fall under the chain of command (unless deployed and ordered to do so) and even if deployed they are attached to a division and not part of a division! Therefore whatever it says on the homepages of the divisions, fires brigades are NOT part of a division. They are like Battlefield Surveillance brigades, like Engineering brigades, Maneuver Enhancement brigades forces that are separate from the 10 divisions. noclador (talk) 08:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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