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September 2020

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Sobhi Fazl'ollah Mohtadi, from its old location at User:Serv181920/sandbox. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 19:58, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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October 2020

Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of founders of religious traditions, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 11:10, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

I had added Shaykhism to the list. What kind of source is required to add this "tradition" to the list? I see Mason Remey and his minuscule "Baha'i Sect" in the list. Shaykhism is a greater movement than some of those listed on that page. Wikipedia does have articles on Shaykhism, its founders and his successors. Please let me know why this "tradition" cannot be added to the list when it meets all the criteria.

A reliable, secondary source as described in WP:IRS. Unsourced material is subject to challenge and removal per WP:V. Elizium23 (talk) 11:44, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. Right now I am adding a reliable secondary source to it.

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Hope this was my first and last time. Thank you.

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Noted with thanks.Serv181920 (talk) 15:09, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Removing double spaces at the end of a sentence

Hi, I saw you removed the double spaces at the end of sentences in Super-Science Fiction. Please don’t do that - usually (and in this case) it’s that way because a frequent editor of the article did it because they find it easier to edit with double spaces. See User:Spinningspark/Two spaces at the end of sentences for another editor’s essay on this, which says it better than I could. I see from your edit summaries that you’ve made this change on other articles - I think that’s not a good habit as it doesn’t change how the article looks to the reader and is quite likely to annoy editors who prefer double spacing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:06, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Thank you for informing me. I was not aware of this before. Most people don't use this style except may be a very few. Most of the places where I have removed double spaces, i realized that those were mistakenly placed. Anyways, I will take care of this, would change double spaces only when I am sure that those were unintentional.Serv181920 (talk) 15:16, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree, most of the time it's an error. It's one of those things people care unreasonably strongly about, though, so good to leave it alone unless there's a reason to change it. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:56, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Serv181920, I noticed the same thing, and that a large proportion of your edits are doing this, even after the above comments. There's no need to "fix" double spaces, even if they're unintentional, because multiple spaces display as a single space. My advice would be to not make edits for the sole purpose of adjusting non-displaying whitespace or other formatting in Wiki source. It wastes the time of other editors who may be checking articles for vandalism, and it makes "diffs" harder to read when comparing an article to older versions to see what changes have been made. If you're making an edit for some other legitimate reason, it may be acceptable to remove some duplicate spaces, but even then there are differences of opinion among editors. In general, it's not something you should focus your efforts on too much. Thanks for your understanding... --IamNotU (talk) 15:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi once more; I was coming here to say that I'd just undone one of your edits along these lines but I see now that you haven't made more edits removing double spaces since the post above, so thank you for that. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your guidance. Appreciate.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Farzam Kamalabadi (October 26)

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Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question

Hello, Serv181920! I'm Snowycats. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. Snowycats (talk) 22:58, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you.

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Your edit at Teahouse

Your massive edit at Teahouse has been reverted. David notMD (talk) 08:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, that was unintentional.Serv181920 (talk) 08:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I think you deserve a barnstar!

		The Barnstar of Integrity
		I think you deserve this barnstar! Thanks for your work cleaning up pages on the Baháʼí Faith and making an effort to achieve WP:NPOV on contentious topics. Gazelle55 (talk) 22:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you :) Serv181920 (talk) 10:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Something you might be interested in (WP:VNT)

Hi Serv181920, I'm mostly not editing for the rest of the month, but I wanted to share one link with you. I saw you posted at WP:DRN and I don't want to weigh in there, but just have a general point for you. I think that you're making two points there: 1) the source isn't reliable enough to cite, and 2) you have separate reasons (his contribution to Muslim causes, lack of mention in other Baha'i sources) to believe the source is not accurate. Regarding the first point, I'm interested to see what other editors think... I've already given my opinion and won't repeat it, but maybe they disagree. But regarding the second point, you may wish to read WP:VNT... unfortunately Wikipedia sometimes has to include things that are probably not true, because that's what the best sources say. So I think only the first argument is valid within Wikipedia.

With that said, I still do think a lot of pages on Baha'i topics have poor sources, POV issues, lack of notability, etc., so in general I do appreciate the time you're giving to improve Wikipedia. Cheers! Gazelle55 (talk) 23:43, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Gazelle55, My weight is on the first point, I don't want to prove that he was a Muslim, that is WP:BLUE for the Azerbaijanis. :)

Thank you for sharing WP:VNT, I had read it before and I agree that wikipedia runs on published sources. My only concern is the reliability of that source. I could have made edits to the sentence saying that one Azer Jafarov, is an employee of the National Office and he claims in his article on Caucaz.com (now defunct) so and so.... but I want to learn how WP:RS works in this type of cases. If this source is acceptable then there are so many other sources that should also be acceptable.

Thank you for your concern and appreciation. I hope to learn many things from you and our friend Cuñado in the future.Serv181920 (talk) 10:04, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Serv181920, thanks, I appreciate your open-mindedness. In fact, I had just discovered WP:VNT, so it looks like you knew about it before I did. And it is fair to want to learn more about WP:RS... I'm surprised they didn't answer on the RSN. But returning to the source, I know you are not trying to prove Jafarov was a Muslim, but I still think you are straying into WP:SYNTH or WP:OR... specifically in your response to Cuñado at the dispute resolution board, your #5 and #6 are irrelevant, and I think those points are the reason they are accusing you of original research. Also, I don't mean to be overly critical, but when you're at a board asking for mediation, ending your sentences in "!" probably doesn't win people over. Remember that WP:CIVIL mentions 5 times that editors should remain calm. Anyway, I agree with you that the Baha'i review almost certainly doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards. Hope the mediation is informative. Gazelle55 (talk) 01:47, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, agree to most part of your comment. Sincerely appreciate your advice and help. Thanks again.Serv181920 (talk) 10:22, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

No problem. And I've only been on Wikipedia a few years so always feel free to give me feedback too. Gazelle55 (talk) 19:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I have started just 5-6 months ago. I admit that I have to learn more from good editors like you. :) Thank you again.Serv181920 (talk) 09:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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March 2021

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Diannaa, I had changed a few words, but it looks like that was not sufficient. I will either rewrite those sentences in my own words or put it as a quote. Is that fine? Thank you.Serv181920 (talk) 16:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Writing in your own words is best.— Diannaa (talk) 16:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks.

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Bias

Your attempts to portray yourself as a neutral investigator countering bias is not fooling anyone. You don't need to keep it up for my sake. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 15:58, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Cuñado, Thank you for writing here. I don't consider myself "an investigator" and I could not seem to be "neutral" to you because, I think, you see everything from the glasses of pro-Baha'i bias. As wiki-editors, and as people believing in intellectual honesty, we are supposed to build Wikipedia that has all kind of information. It could be in favour of the Baha'i faith and some times not. Imposing your viewpoints and ideas on others and dictating them is not going to help you much. I try my level best to follow the rules and policies of wikipedia, if I make mistake please tell me - I will correct it.

Wiki articles are not a personal property of some editors, if you think only positive things about the Baha'i faith should come-up everywhere then Bahaipedia (or whatever it is) is a good place. It is in your noble hands. Enjoy that space.Serv181920 (talk) 17:04, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Your editing belies the claim of "intellectual honesty". My point in writing was to say there is no need to keep up the facade for my sake, but it may still serve a purpose for new observers so I imagine you will continue with it. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 20:05, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

That's fine. You have the right to form opinion about me or anyone else. And you are right, I will continue with my edits, hope you are there to correct me whenever I am incorrect and also hope that you will not impose your pro-Baha'i bias on me or any other editors. Lets stick to the rules and contribute to the articles with good sources. Lets make the articles neutral for less-informed readers.Serv181920 (talk) 09:02, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect section

Your addition to The Bab: 'Expansion from Amanat's book', is incorrectly placed. The book chapter you cited from was describing Shiraz 1845 not the Tabriz trial of 1848. You can check here: https://archive.org/stream/resurrectionandrenewalthemakingoft/Resurrection_and_Renewal_The_Making_of_t_djvu.txt

Thank you for notifying. I have moved it to the correct section. Have a nice day.Serv181920 (talk) 08:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

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