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Dear User: Serendipdous, I am a university student doing an assignment on Wikipedia. Through your years writing for Wikipedia, how do you feel they are doing in maintaining a neutral point of view with accurate information on their web pages?

Also, I am particularly interested in the Pluto page that you have edited a few times. Do you feel this page has a neutral point of view and is as accurate as other online encyclopaedias such as Encyclopaedia Britannica?

Thank you very much for time,

Cclar - you may contact me at ce_clark@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cclar (talk • contribs) 18:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Reptilian Humanoids

Good job taking the lead there, btw. Artw (talk) 00:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Humanoids

Icke seems to use the expression "reptilian humanoids," most of the time, as do the people who write about him. Some are extra-terrestial, but I think some are not: they just carry the reptilian DNA. Or something like that. But "humanoids" seems to be the key expression. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 20:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is that I can't rename things because of what they're called on WP. The term the literature uses (that I've seen so far) is "reptilian humanoids." They are humanoid because they look like humans, and because some of them are partly human. There are both "outer-space" reptilians and "native" reptilians in the Icke literature, so they're not just reptilian extra-terrestials. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 20:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting 3,000 hits on Google for "reptilian extraterrestrial" and "David Icke," but 15,000 for "reptilian humanoid" and "David Icke." SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 20:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My pain

Thank you. Consider it massively eased. :) SlimVirgin 21:52, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

um...

While I appreciate your addition to reptilians, it would be nice if you could provide a source for the information you just added, rather than ask other people to source it for you. Serendi ^pod ous 12:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I actually put a fact tag to show that I was aware that the information I added needs to be sourced. I read this information an article or book which I lost track of but I'm in the process of locating it. In other words, I will provide a source very soon. --Loremaster (talk) 12:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Halley's Comet

Have you been abloe to access the referenence and verify the mass estimate of 2.2×10¹⁴ kg? I have never been able to open the reference. -- Kheider (talk) 02:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Bad move"

Care to elaborate on this undo, to move a rather pointless stub back into the primary topic space for a term with over half a dozen common meanings, before I speedy it again? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 22:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Halley's comet

I think this is a good review (ref 62 in the article). Ruslik_Zero 09:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just found this book chapter. Ruslik_Zero 09:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Potter edits

Sorry, I didn't realise I was accidentally logged out. Str1977 ^(talk) 15:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then the sentence makes no sense and never made any sense. Whether the HP magic is like or unlike Wicca and how religion in general is included in the book are two totally different issues. Str1977 ^(talk) 15:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I leave it to you to decided whether the sentence makes sense or not. But the absence of religion (not just Wicca) from HP is a different subject. Str1977 ^(talk) 15:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Secularism", as you call it, is not a response to criticism - how could it? - it is an item of criticism. Just look at the first source referenced in that section! Str1977 ^(talk) 16:06, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where is it a response to criticism? Where does the pragraph argue against the (secularist, ACLU-type) argument that religious books should not be in a school library? No, the paragraph cites Mrs Beam "The spiritual fault of Harry Potter is not so much that Rowling is playing to dark supernatural powers, but that she doesn't acknowledge any supernatural powers at all. These stories are not fueled by witchcraft, but by secularism."^[1] and adds praise by atheist voices, thereby making it an item of criticism.

I see your point that Wiccans would argue against the identification of HP witchcraft with their brand by pointing out that HP witchcraft has no religious dimension - in contrast to Wicca. That's a valid point and one that might be included if it is not already in there. But the paragraph in question doesn't make that point but criticises (or praises ) the film of being "without God". That's a criticism that shouldn't be censored or hidden, especially if one HP critic like Mrs Beam says that this (and not witchcraft) that is the actual problem.

PS. I will post this discussion to the article talk page so that others can benefit too. Str1977 ^(talk) 19:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another point: I don't know exactly what Wiccans are contending but while they have a point in denying that HP promotes Wicca by saying that HP magic is not Wicca, the claim that HP doesn't promote witchcraft is a another shoe. One cannot argue that because HP doesn't promote Wicca it does not promote any kind of witchcraft. Note I am not making a positive statement here - I think the HP books pretty much harmless - but we cannot at the same time lump things together and criticise it. Str1977 ^(talk) 19:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nicholas Mayall FAC

Hi Serendipodous,

The article on the astronomer Nicholas Mayall is currently under FAC and is being objected to for its prose. Could you please take a look to see if you can help?

Thanks.

WilliamKF (talk) 21:31, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:T-600.jpg

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Hurray for your TFA

A fine job on that article appearing today on the front page. Have a donut. Also, hurray for Discworld! Scartol • Tok 16:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's very readable. I think there's a tough balance to find between technical accuracy and general-audience access. The article is wonderfully comprehensive, with some superb images. (I love the classic NASA fonts.) Kudos for your work! Scartol • Tok 18:18, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Halley PR

You are most welcome. I enjoyed reading the article, and I wish you success with it. Finetooth (talk) 23:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

Srry, so srry. not so new to wikipedia (did a few edits on this wikiquotes thing as ip, though), but I think the link is...nvr mind, srry, my computer can only show the begining and the end. if you could do big favor for me, plz search: msnbc harry potter vote, and 1st entry should be the 1. could u plz help me? so srry for trouble. Iotamikadoshi (talk) 01:07, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

kk, whatev u say, I'm totally cool with it. But, hey, isnt a decent defense of Harry Potter? I know Wikipedia isnt really the place to discuss this, but as you are part of hp's wikiproject, should we try to give some defence of it? I mean, its a bit biased, that article, too many christian complaining about witchcraft and wiccan...plz, what could i do to help, at all? thanks very much. Iotamikadoshi (talk) 01:41, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, friend, i understand u, but, still, you don't think the religious groups are going too hard, on a series of books? To better understand this, could you tell me which side are u go, anti-hp, or pro-hp? I mean, theres TONS of citations to numberous articles about bruning the books. i thought 1 edit by me wouldnt do too much harm...srry if I offended u or other christians...really srry, still new to this, hope u can understand and help... :) (p.s. sure we'll be great friends, though, i, like, barely know any1 here, hope we can kinda be wikibuddies!) Iotamikadoshi (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mars#Evolution

I agree that the section has multiple issues, but I strongly disagree that complete deletion is the solution. The evolution and development of Mars over the billions of years is a point of major astronomical interest. -RadicalOne---Contact Me 21:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC) [reply]

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Halley type comets

The origin of these comets is not completely clear. They are usually thought to come from the Oort cloud, but simulations have so far failed to reproduce all their characteristics. Glagman et al claim that Drac may be a primordial object and that it may belong to a previously unknown population of high inclination objects, which may feed Halley type comets into the Solar System as well. This population is claimed to be different from both the Oort cloud and Scattered disc. Summarizing, Halley comets may originate either in the Oort cloud or in this third reservior. Ruslik_Zero 14:16, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Localcloud.gif

Hi Serendipodous, this is to let you know that I've deleted File:Localcloud.gif. It was labeled as having a free license attributed to NASA. Per http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020210.html this is not the case; it is a copyrighted image. If you have any questions, let me know. — Huntster (t @ c) 23:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Happy new year S-pod! Here is to another great year of astronomy and exploration! Thanks for all your contributions here;I have enjoyed reading reading the articles you worked on. Fotaun (talk) 14:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Castration

Quaoar is brighter, yet much redder than TX₃₀₀

TX300 has basically been emasculated. So over at List of Solar System objects in hydrostatic equilibrium I would replace it with (84522) 2002 TC302. -- Kheider (talk) 22:40, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good call on using a rounded off radius of 600km. That way other DP candidates that are basically same radius become a simple cut & paste issue vs getting out the calculator. -- Kheider (talk) 07:49, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pluto's status

Thanks for making that addition to Planets beyond Neptune. I'm glad that source was useful. James McBride (talk) 08:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war

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2012 phenomenon/GA1

I have friends at WP:MESO. You could ask them to chip in. They would probably be quite helpful. • Ling.Nut 08:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA on hold. • Ling.Nut 07:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I replied here.

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Halley

Congratulations! What are planning to do next? I have actually finished Moons of Saturn article, so, may I ask you for a copy-edit? Ruslik_Zero 19:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there are biographies of astronomers that can also be brought to FA. Ruslik_Zero 20:09, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the end is near

Will look again tomorrow. G'night. • Ling.Nut 14:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your link:How the Earth survived birth

It looks really significant, but it's above my head. Do you think you could add it? Sorry.Serendi ^pod ous 21:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify.—RJH (talk) 21:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I mean that I don't understand it. Serendi ^pod ous 16:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't a clue what you are talking about with your message. Is this on some article? Please explain.—RJH (talk) 18:15, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this one Serendi ^pod ous 18:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay, I'm with you now. You're talking about "Talk:Formation and evolution of the Solar System#How Earth Survived Birth". Sorry, I've had a lot on my mind lately. I'll see if I can come up with something. Thanks.—RJH (talk) 19:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI

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See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Serendipodous "contemplating suicide". Cunard (talk) 19:42, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's a standard template to say this, but that's way too impersonal for something like this. I suffer from major depression and have contemplate suicide before as well. Remember that Wikipedia is a collaborative research project, not a social networking site, and it's best to keep your person life out of public view. If your feelings persist or become overwhelming you are encouraged to contact a suicide hotline in your local region. A list of phone numbers and more can be found here. -Stillwaterising (talk) 06:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you're feeling better and are able to learn and grow from this experience. Email me if you need to talk about personal issues. -Stillwaterising (talk) 14:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you are fine. There are a lot of work in the Solar System left. :) Ruslik_Zero 20:03, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In a few weeks I'll need some nice articles to work on, preferably working with you. • Ling.Nut 14:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hang in there mate. You have the rest of your life ahead of you. Consider that you've been put on this earth for some reason and try to see that whatever higher power exists out there in the universe (or solar system!) is testing you and your weaknesses. I don't believe life is an accident and I think there is some purpose for us being here. If you try to see that we are living and breathing everyday and have the power to pretty much go or do what we want to do and that we have no knowledge of anybody else in the universe who has been given the gift of life then I am certain you would have more respect for it. Suicide is not a joking matter, and even if it puts you out of your pain in this life I am pretty sure it would create even more pain in another life and is not what the universe wants to see. People were created for some purpose, I hope you find what this really is. Everybody, however much of an imbecile they may appear can be of great value to this world. However much of a shitty day you are having, just think about the millions of people in the world worse off than you and who would give their own lives just to have the privelages that we have, food to eat, electricity etc. Have a long think about this please. I understand you are in a lot of pain right now, I have no idea what it is or why, but try to see the world from a different perspective and that life is really a miracle, however hellish it can sometimes be. Everybody has days where they think, "what's the point" or "why to I bother" but please try to think about what I've said and that there is always a different way of seeing the world and your own life outside of your own way of thinking. Please do not commit suicide. You are too valuable. You enjoy writing about the Solar System and space. Why not develop some articles and topics you enjoy and have them read by those around the world!! As Austin Powers would say, Peace and love amaaaannn... Feel free if you want to email me confidentially. I'll be happy to chat to you. Regards. ‡ Himalayan ‡^ΨMonastery 16:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel

Hi! You don't know me - but I have been alerted by others that you are in anguish and contemplating ending it all. I do think this is everyone's right if the pain of living gets too much to bear - but I would hope that you hang in there long enough (difficult as it might be) to come out the other side and be able to experience the warmth of life and love again.

I, myself, went through more than 5 years of excruciating depression (at times I was really "psychotic") and three serious suicide attempts (once only saved because an old friend unexpectedly came to visit me and found me unconscious and called an ambulance). While there is no way I would ever deny that the suffering I was going through at the time was more than enough to justify killing myself, somehow, more through luck than my own efforts, I survived, and gradually crawled out of the swamp of depression and despair. It took a few years and lots of travel - I used to frantically keep moving - often until I collapsed in some odd place. Sometimes complete strangers helped me in the kindest ways (and I think this was the beginning of my healing), but I had lost of heavy times still to get through. I hitch-hiked back and forth across Canada, the US and Mexico, worked in Alaska and, finally, moved to Australia where gradually I began crawl out of the very long and dark tunnel and throw off the heavy wet blankets of despair and anger and disappointment that were suffocating me, to be able to begin to enjoy life again.

That was over 40 years ago and, since then, I have certainly had the very best years of my life and am now surrounded by people I love and who love me. I am really most fortunate and blessed. Although sometimes I still get depressed by the stupidity and greed and violence of my fellow humans and despair of any good future for them as a species, I never sink to the depths of suffering I used to experience.

What I want to say to you is that, for myself, I am deeply grateful I did not succeed in killing myself and that I hope you will hang in there in spite of seemingly unbearable anguish. I think that, if you do, you will find sunshine and love further down the track. And that is what I wish for you. I will keep you in my thoughts and send some Tibetan healing mantras and perform an Australian Aboriginal healing technique I was taught. I hope they help you - they certainly help me. Whatever happens, I send you my very best wishes and hopes that the suffering will not last for too long and that love and joy come your way soon. My heart goes out to you. John Hill (talk) 23:30, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

n/a

∮: if I were to contemplate all the 2012 fools outlasting me the resulting outrage would certainly overcome any other other state of mind I would be in. There are multiple ways to fix problems yet few may become obvious when most needed: from next-Potter-will-be-out-soon, to watching cynical shows like House, to occupy yourself with a hobby that gets you more socialization. Nergaal (talk) 08:10, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I appreciate all your support, but I've rebounded from my momentary descent into Hell and I am unlikely to experience a similar event in the near future. I'm sorry if I freaked people out. I'm a bit blasé about suicidal contemplation at this point. I suffer from clinical depression and have done since I was a baby, and sometimes even the pills don't work. This is far from the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. It's just something I have to live with, so to speak. Again thanks for the rally, but I'm OK now I promise. Serendi ^pod ous 09:37, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pills will not work. You can get the hormones which keep you happier by diet and exercise. Trust me on this. I work out for an hour most mornings, either cardio (running, circuit training or rowing) or weights or both. I also try to cut out most processed foods and eat a diet full of rich nutrients found in fresh vegetables and fruit, preferably raw and fresh fish and meat and drinking nothing but water, tea and blended juices/soya milk. By cutting out the sluggish junk foods and going clean you will genuinely find your mind functions better and you feel a whole lot better.. It might not work for you but I strongly recommend you try it. By eating fresh vegetables and produce, especially if ground in a mixer as a juice they will enter your blood stream and replenish the starved cells and make them thrive, and if you combine this with exercise you will get a big supply of hormones and nutrients flowing through your body which can be seriously uplifting and make you feel a load better. I'm not saying diet and exercise is the answer to all problems, but I know that it has a major influence on energy levels and mood throughout the day.. ‡ Himalayan ‡^ΨMonastery 12:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great news!

Well, that's the best news I've heard all day - sure beats what's on the radio and T.V.! Will continue to keep keep sending healing thoughts from Down Under. All best wishes. John Hill (talk) 11:48, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Serendipodous, I'm glad to see you back in action. -- Kheider (talk) 15:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This news makes me rather happy. May there be more improvements to the Solar System. Iridia (talk) 05:35, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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