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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Undid revision

‘Undid revision 1235647610 by 80.41.108.1 (talk) WP:NOTFORUM, this page is for discussion of how to improve the page, not what you think is right or wrong undo’

But this comment is acceptable :o

“It was pretty silly of Robinson to attempt to enter the USA with someone else's passport, but I'm not denying that he has committed some serious offences”, ♦IanMacM♦ 89.240.197.129 (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

You've omitted the context from the start of the comment which makes it relevant to a comment someone else made about the Wikipedia page itself... ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't think so ;) 80.47.181.211 (talk) 13:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Possible sock?

Hey, I see you were engaged in a dispute with T931201 (talk · contribs) which resulted in them being temporarily blocked. I just wanted to let you know that it seems like just after their block was implemented, a new account by the name of TTCP0906 (talk · contribs) has been created with extremely similar editing habits to T931201. Their edits on the Talk:Miss Universe 2024 article seem to suggest they already have experience in editing despite having no contributions before today and they are continuing a dispute that T931201 had taken part in regarding adding countries to the tables before a candidate was selected (Talk:Miss Universe 2024#Addition of country / Misses in the table). I just wanted to put this on your radar as possible block evading and sockpuppetry in case you thought an investigation was worthwhile. For what it's worth, I had already been suspicious that T931201 is a possible sock of the blocked France-Pt9301 (talk · contribs). { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 14:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Heya @Jjj1238: thanks for letting me know about this. Looking at this, it seems incredibly likely to me that this is indeed a sockpuppet situation. I'll file a report in the next few minutes. If it's indeed the case that it's the sock of an existing account that will likely show up in checkuser results. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 14:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ser! You notice on the one hand that I am not trying to deny that it is me and as a bonus of that, I have not posted any message on the discussion page of the Eurovision Song Contest 2025 concerning France, a sign that I I learn from my mistakes. TTCP0906 (talk) 14:52, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jjj1238 It’s actually me. I created this account in order to be able to leave messages (and not modify, proof is, I have not made any modifications with this account) although I continue to find this ban unfair. However, I respect it and do not modify it for 24 hours as the ban requires. Furthermore, I will no longer seek to modify the Eurovision Song Contest 2025 article to remove France, if it amuses you to keep erroneous information in an article, too bad for you. TTCP0906 (talk) 14:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, that was easier than I expected. SPI report filed. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 14:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ser! Why pick on me ? TTCP0906 (talk) 14:52, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

You edit warred, got blocked for it and are now flaunting Wikipedia rules by creating a new account. I'm not picking on you, these are Wikipedia rules. Please do not leave another message on my talk page, I am not wasting my time with this. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 14:56, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jjj1238: France-Pt9301 and T931201 are actually the same person. They confessed to it on their french talk page. And then deleted it. See that diff. Yoyo360 (talk) 15:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

This just gets worse and worse, doesn't it? Thanks for letting us know, I'll mention on the investigation page. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 15:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Coming back to note that Rio0106 was also blocked from wiki:fr but France-Pt9301 was not although I will ask if it's possible to do it. I wonder if there may be a starting case for cross wiki bann altogether Yoyo360 (talk) 15:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Yoyo360 I don't think this one is intentional, they don't repeat that at French wiki, correct? I also can't find Rio0106 at French wiki [1]. Let's just focus on edit warring here. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 07:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sir Kenneth Khi oh yes they do exist. Right here. Late edit but rereading I realised I inverted the numbers, it's Rio0601 not Rio0106, hence the confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoyo360 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Yoyo360 I agree Rio0601 engaged in intentional fr-wiki sockpuppetry, but it was long ago in October 2022 - January 2023. T931201 did not engage in intentional fr-wiki sockpuppetry though, I checked all the edits made, which are only three edits, made in the same day last month, was not in a manner that corroborate another of their own. TTCP0906 has been permabanned, and the reason was not dishonesty but block evasion, so I think sockpuppetry matter has been resolved here. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 22:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sir Kenneth Kho Yeah the accounts T931201 and TTCP0906 don't really matter on frwiki but the account France-Pt9301, which is also a sockpuppet of Rio0601 is still active there while it has been blocked here for a while. Yoyo360 (talk) 22:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

The accounts are all blocked now as a result of a sockpuppet investigation, so I guess we can put this to bed for now and keep an eye out in case the user tries to return. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 22:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Nevermind of my objections, I just took a look at the list of ten sockpuppets still operated by them in 2024[2]. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 22:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)