User talk:Seikku Kaita
September 2010
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- OK, now I've calmed down for a week, and yet, I still feel I have been driven over by a bus, while taking a zebra-crossing with a green light saying WALK. This automated slam, most likely made in good will, assuming I have not read the instructions, is not the polite way of telling a contributer "you are not wanted in our sandbox". It does give a feeling I must be a newbie that hardly can read - not to mention assimilate - the instructions. I must assume UncleBubba is an elder scientist than I am, though I doubt it.
- About "Reliable sources" I have posted my opinion quite clearly on my user page.
- "Rv good faith edits that change the tone of a significant part of the article."
- Yes, this is exactly what I did (not the Rv, of course). And I would do it again, unless it was a declaration of edit war. The "tone of the article" is almost religious against using NAT. Neither can I make myself to see a neutral and balanced tone in "...especially in Russia, Asia and other "developing" regions provide their customers only with "local" IP addresses, due to a limited number of ...", classifying some geographical areas as if they were from stone age, making an assumption there is something better some elsewhere, and giving as a fact that the reason would be lack of IP addresses allocated for the ISP.
- All the changes were under subtitle "Benefits", so it must be a really significant part of the article.
- The article would really need a big change of attitude, but as you all see, the discussion page clearly shows there are some stubborn authors religiously banning anything that might say NAT is OK.
- As a senior security and ICT consultant, I deeply disagree the tone of the article, and agree with a couple of good comments in discussion such as multiple security related benefits gained by use of NAT.
- Much of this is duplicate to the edit I am about to do to the talk page [talk:Network Address Translation]. Sorry, I'll ask the cleaning lady to pay a visit later.
Your observations re the Nurse Edith Cavell section in the "Arthur Zimmermann" article
[edit]- Well, Seikku, it certainly was not my intention to let an "attitude" as you call it, creep into my editing at the time. I can only say, perhaps, with hindsight I might have included more of Arthur Zimmermann's speech pertaining to the execution as reported by the First World War article cited at the end of the "Edith Cavell" section, but I am not sure whether more of the same or even the whole part might have made any difference.
- One thing is almost certain, as German Secretary for Foreign Affairs at the time, it would have been impossible for him to let more personal feelings as to his pity or not, intrude into anything he said or might have said. The sheer fact would probably have been he had to maintain a position as such. But that is only an assumption, and as you know we can only cite original sources in an encyclopaedia as Wikipedia.
- If, however, you can cite such sources as to the facts, please do so, and yes, it would complement the section on the Edith Cavell execution indeed well. Dieter Simon (talk) 01:35, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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