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Makeover of Portuguese football

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You may have noticed that I am seeking to undertake a makeover of Portuguese football on Wikipedia. It will not happen over night and involves a lot of work. There are three issues that I would like to address concerning page titles of articles and wondered whether you are supportive:

1. We use the full club name e.g. Clube de Futebol União de Lamas and not the abbreviated version C.F. União de Lamas. However abbreviated versions of the name will be linked to the article.

2. In the season articles we use the Portuguese name e.g. 2011–12 Segunda Divisão and not 2011–12 Portuguese Second Division.

3. In the District Football Associations we use the Portuguese name e.g. Associação de Futebol de Aveiro and not Aveiro Football Association.

We can then place the change to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football as we do not currently have a Task Group.

It would also be helpful if you can advise on the criteria you use for the inclusion of Notable former players in club articles.

Kind regards League Octopus (League Octopus 10:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)).[reply]

NB: Sent to Secretaria and Vasco Amaral. Are there any other prime editors covering Portuguese football?

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Sei que não ter qualquer tipo de resposta como de costume, apesar de ter sido sempre bem-educado mas, desde que o conceito seja respeitado, já me é indiferente para ser sincero, não posso obrigar (nem quero) ninguém a ser interactivo.

Como acabei de ver no Moreirense F.C. é favor deixar de pôr RUNNER-UP nas ligas, os segundos lugares são válidos nas taças domésticas (nos clubes) e nas provas de selecções (onde também valem os terceiros lugares no FIFA World Cup, etc). Agora nos clubes não valem. Pode ser?

Obrigado, boa semana - --AL (talk) 01:55, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comprovo, com muito pesar, que enviei uma mensagem com o mesmo pedido o ano passado, não me ligaste nenhuma. OK, só queria ajudar, não volta a acontecer.

Muitíssimo obrigado pela resposta. Não meu caro, não há dualidade nenhuma, e passo a explicar: em nenhum caso se dão medalhas ou afins quando uma dada equipa fica em segundo no campeonato (uma excepção segundo aprendi aqui no WP, em Inglaterra), nas taças dão-se medalhas ao finalista vencido, tal como nos Mundiais e Europeus.

Em relação às alterações, eu não sei de todos os clubes, mas corrigi muitos na Primeira Liga e na Liga de Honra, se foram alterados é realmente uma pena, mais trabalho. De novo, uma ótima semana compatriota --AL (talk) 02:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Não, sem dúvida, belo trabalho tem o meu caro feito, os meus parabéns! Mas isto com trabalho de equipa "vai" melhor. --AL (talk) 02:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Obrigado pela ajuda, mas há coisas a melhorar ainda, como vi no Rio Ave: não é preciso escrever "WINNERS", é implícito. Depois, os títulos são SEMPRE mais importantes que os segundos lugares, por isso o segundo lugar de finalista na Taça de Portugal será a última coisa mencionada, não a PRIMEIRA.

Tchau, boa semana! --AL (talk) 14:55, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Por favor, outra coisa (quando penso que já está tudo uniformizado vem outra coisa que não estava à espera): não é preciso pôr os "1" e os "2" a seguir aos títulos, é fácil de contar. Pôr os nomes das competições a negro ou não é indiferente, mas o que não pode ser é uns em inglês e outros em português.

Ah, e tal como fizeste no Rio Ave, a WIKIPEDIA não pode servir como referência a ela própria, é completamente contra as regras. Vê este clube para ver como eu estou a uniformizar por favor.

Boa semana - --AL (talk) 01:54, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pode ficar uniformizado à mesma, mas diferente, explico: os clubes com muitos títulos (os grandes e/ou enormes) poderão ter os numerais, os clubes como o RIO AVE, TROFENSE, etc, não é preciso. Em relação aos idiomas (e concordo contigo a 100% que muitos estrangeiros não perceberão ao ler), pode-se pôr no original (ou seja, o nome tal qual existe na WP (a tua sugestão do "entre parêntese" acho que ainda confude mais), mas tem que ser TODAS as competições.

Realmente, não percebo o pedantismo grassante que vai por este nosso país (basta ver as notícias, desportivas ou não, o futebol é o mais importante do mundo seja em que canal for), PRIMEIRA LIGA, LIGA ZON SAGRES, LIGA ORANGINA, LIGA DE HONRA agora é SEGUNDA LIGA, LIGA BWIN, para mim sempre será 1ª DIVISÃO, 2ª, 3ª 4ª e regionais.

Saudações --AL (talk) 14:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Olá caro compatriota,

pensava que estava esclarecido, já vi que não (Domingos Paciência): os RUNNER-UP (segundos lugares) são só para as TAÇAS ou competições de selecções (onde por vezes até contam os terceiros lugares), não são para os CAMPEONATOS. É favor desfazeres se puseste em mais algum jogador/treinador.

Feliz 2013 - --AL (talk) 23:48, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Acontece aos melhores! --AL (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Just wanted to let you know about a small mistake you made at UEFA coefficient that has now been corrected. You corrected the whole table and updated accessdate of source which was great. But the mistake you did was that you decreased number of teams for some countries even if no team got eliminated, they enter Europa League instead, so therefore the number of teams for each country stays the same. Just letting you know so that the same thing dont happen tommorrow, where no teams will be eliminated from Europe either. QED237 (talk) 21:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, no problem, I totally understand. Just wanted to let you know what happened. QED237 (talk) 08:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you remove the 2007/2008 edition? I'm asking because Benfica website counts four.BenficaNNossaPaixao (talk)

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