User talk:Sebastiankessel/Archive1

Regional notice board

You are wellcome to join the Argentine regional notice board. -Mariano 17:25, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

... also take a look at WP:Israel & WP:WNBI. Cheers! ←Humus sapiens←ну? 22:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

The Reason i am removing this part about Genetic information found is because it is not by a creditable source of information and makes almost no sense to history of Argentina!

If you look in the Buenos Aires Herald it says NOTHING about ur claims so i am changing it back.

Again you are wrong because if you look in the US Census it clearly states over 10 precent of the population is of mixed decent. Plus you have no proof of ur claim so i am removing it.

Al Sharpton

The reason I removed the information because there are no credible sources cited for the alleged statements. Most of the links were from National Review, and I'm pretty sure they could just make up anything out of the blue, because national review is not objective at all. i am open to evidence that he has made these supposed statements, but I seriously doubt the validity of the allegations that were written in the "bigotry" section. --Revolución (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

They do seem awfully biased, but I wouldn't disregard them altogether. Can you format the article to mention these allegations but give them a much less promiment place? I don't like Al all that much but I don't think he's the monster those sources portray him to be. Having said this, my POV is irrelevant but I feel that in WP he have to show all angles. What do u think? --Sebastian Kessel 21:12, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree we have to show all angles, but I think we should definitely try to separate the facts from the allegations. --Revolución (talk) 21:29, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah.... I took it up and browsed the NR webpage....It's crap. Let's remove the whole "Bigotry" section and external links but let's keep the "Critics Say..." part since it does show what his critics say, after all. :) --Sebastian Kessel 21:30, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't really think so, Sebastiankessel... It really isn't crap. Their opinions and interpretations are frequently crap ithink. But to describe the #1 circulation conservative magazine as "not credible" and I'm pretty sure they could just make up anything out of the blue" makes it clear what Revolucion is doing. That, and removing negative facts that Others had added. Not myself. If REv olucion has any credible argument of that, I'm sure Sharpton would like him on his legal team. I don't think it'll happen. but inflammatory? In need of rewriting? Maybe, I can't tell. But this blatant vandalism from Revolucion is not it. Race Reality 22:05, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it vandalism, but he could've been more tactful... and so could you. :) Do you think you could re-write the section to make it more NPOV-ish? --Sebastian Kessel 22:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

That edit comment on that page may have looked really bad, I'm sorry, i can't read maybe. And, you're asking me to rewrite it more tactfully? After you noticed I don't do that well? But seriously. Maybe I can. I'd like to have it presentable, if it's not. Race Reality 22:42, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I replied on yout talk page. --Sebastian Kessel 22:44, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Oblige/Obligate - Obliged/Obligated

Apart from a special use in biology obligate means pretty much the same as oblige. I am of the opinion that it is a back-formation from obligation that came about in the 15th or 16th century, and I find it ugly. For the wikitionary defn. of oblige see. Rich Farmbrough 20:06, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Signature

No worries, it's only a bit of markup. I'm flattered you thought it worth taking. Rob Church ^{Talk | Desk} 22:00, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

That was awesome.

Your comments to Talk:Anti-Semitic were very good, detailed and objective. We need more of this type in Wikipedia. --Vizcarra 17:07, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Anti-Semitism

I'm sorry you got that impression from my comments. They were entirely serious, and I had no intention of being condescending. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

The last name "Frank" almost certainly has its ultimate origins in the ethnic term "Frank", i.e. one of the Franks. Perhaps not a perfect analogy, but certainly not irrelevant. I'll put another analogy in there, see if you like that. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:21, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Just wanted to say that you got my utmost respect, Sebastian. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 00:40, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Bmicomp's RfA

Well, my RfA has not quite completed yet, but either way, I'd like to thank you for your vote and your support, regardless of the outcome. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 17:57, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

200.45.178.153

Haha, yeah. I've noticed the tag team. I see that s/he made another edit to Argentina. Which is actually not bad, I am not convinced that "south of south america" is the most poetic way to say it either. --Vizcarra 20:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

RFA nomination

Hello! Thanx for all your work on the edit war on the Guns N' Roses article. I have nominated myself for adminship to better fight off these vandals that don't take into consideration wikipedia policy. I would be honored if you voted on my nomination, be it for it, agains it, or neutral. Thank you!<<Coburn_Pharr>> 18:02, 17 September 2005 (UTC) vote here

Thank you

I thank you for your support in my successful RfA. I hope I can live up to expectations. --Bhadani 10:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Current Squad

Hi Sebas! A couple of htings about the Current Squads sections you've been working on:

• Flags: No point on adding the Club's Shield to every player, they are all the same! I suggest you put the Flag of the Nationalities, or leave it without any image.
• Player possition : no need to repeate a link to the possition that is already at the top of the sub-list
• (ordered numerically) comment could be at the bottom, together with the other comments.
• You could order the tables oposite.

Check this example for Boca Juniors (warning, some other player might not be Argentine).

As of 19 September 2005

Goalkeepers   1 Abbondanzieri, Roberto Carlos 12 Medrán, Ezequiel Luis 25 Eberto, Gustavo Daniel Defenders   2 Schiavi, Rolando Carlos   3 Morel Rodríguez, Claudio Marcelo   4 Ibarra, Hugo Benjamín   6 Díaz, Daniel Alberto 15 Calvo, José María 28 Casais, Eduardo Javier 33 Cahais, Matías 38 Acosta, Fernando 39 Coronel, Sergio 46 Fusco, Emiliano Midfielders   5 Gago, Fernando Rubén   8 Cagna, Diego Sebastián 10 Insúa, Federico 11 Vargas Rivera, Fabián Andrés

Midfielders (...continuation) 18 Marino, Guillermo Andrés 19 Cardozo, Neri Raúl 21 Battaglia, Sebastián Alejandro 22 Silvestre, Matías Agustín 24 Krupoviesa, Juan Ángel 27 Scarione, Ezequiel 32 Baigorria, Manuel 34 Franzoia, Andrés 36 Gutiérrez, Enzo 44 Bertolo, Nicolás 41 Trejo, Oscar Strikers / Forwards   7 Barros Schelotto, Guillermo   9 Palermo, Martín 14 Palacio, Rodrigo Sebastián 16 Delgado, Marcelo Alejandro 23 Bilos, Daniel Rubén 30 Galarza, Víctor Manuel 40 Trípodi, Mariano 42 Mondaini, Marcos Gustavo

(Players order by number. The positions are generic and do not contemplate multiple positions or more specific positions. )

Hope you like it!

Mariano(t/c) 08:51, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Dealing with vandals

Hi! I see you've been reverting 24.60.161.63's edits. I thought s/he was an occasional vandal, but it seems s/he follows a pattern. I'll be looking out for those "contributions" as well. In the meantime, in order to scare him/her off and possibly enable an admin to block him/her in due time, you should use the template tags described in Wikipedia:Vandalism#Dealing with vandalism. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 23:47, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Thats not true that im bais and how you dare say that, i am just going around here seeing all the inaccurate information and changing it. Gautemala is accurate for example and theres no need to change it so how could u possible say that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by XXGustaXX (talk • contribs) 20 Sep 2005

I am not vandalizing you didnt even read my source! please ur just being bais now like most people are saying you are on your very own page im going to revert because you have NO PROOF and I do simple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.161.63 (talk • contribs) 20 Sep 2005

3RR

No it was aimed at him. he's already broken the rule and I wanted to make sure he couldn't claim not to have been warned if he continued reverting.Geni 00:59, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Maybe you are interested in this page's talk South Shetland Islands Argentino 18:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Gigante de Arroyito

By all means, if you have a photo and it has no copyright, do replace it! I just thought we needed at least one, so I took a walk and got it. :) --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 23:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Marambio Base

I donno if I'm missing something, it looks fine to me.

Anyway, you can always count on me for such things. Mariano(t/c) 07:43, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Football player infobox

Hi! Thanx for your interest in the football player infobox. I just added the position to the template. If you have skills in template edition, don't hesitate to improve the template. The main issue is about the caps(goals) fields. Have a look at the relevant talk page for more info. Hope you enjoy. Julien Tuerlinckx 11:58, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Saves

Just to say that instead of saving every single change, You can press "preview"... Ok, Thank You Sebastian... --Zzzzzzus 13:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)zzzzzzus

Israel POV

Sebastian --

If it were up to me, no, "Israel" would not be considered POV. However, it is being forced down my throat that "Israel's Occupation" or any variation connecting Israel with being an occupying power is POV, this in spite that every nation in the world save one accepts without question that Israel is an occupying power, as does the UN at every level. So why is this POV? It seems to me that we have one nation and perhaps 50 million people in the world -- if we count slightly more than half of Israelis and make a wild ass guess at how many fundamentalist Christians and Likudniks living abroad -- contest that Israel is an occupying power, and this apparently is enough that the use of any term connecting Israel with occupation must be censored from Wikipedia's article titles, as well as from a good deal of the texts.

Well, if one country and perhaps 50 million people is enough opposition to make a term POV, there are probably a dozen countries that have never acknowledged the legitimacy nor the existence of Israel, along with a few hundred million people -- why shouldn't "Israel" be considered POV, too? And, unlike the challenge to "Israel's Occupation," I'm pretty sure that most of the parties that take issue with the term "Israel" have been quite consistent about it for over 50 years.

I wouldn't demand that Wikipedia's policies always be what I want them to be, but I do demand that they be consistent and not prejudicially applied. And if the only "policy" governing this matter is the rules regarding editing wars, so be it.

Marsden 23:56, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Las Malvinas

I had moved the comment to the Falkland Islands talk page, which is where it belongs and where the other comment had been repeated. I wouldn't discredit the Argentine claim because the UK rules but because the people of the island don't want to integrate into a Spanish culture (my own experience of how painful that transition can be even when desired means I wouldn't wish that on anyone). But I do think the fact that the UK are sovereign is very important in how we approach the article, SqueakBox 20:09, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Gracias por tu apoyo, Sebastian!

Muchisimas gracias por tu apoyo en mi RfA! Es raro para mi esto de mandar un saludo en Español por aqui. Tu tambien eres de Rosario, como Pablo? Un besazo! Shauri Yes babe? 23:31, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've added myself, cannot harm

Yes, from Argentina, but anchored in Paris, I mean Spain :-)

Regarding Malvinas, I couldn't care less about the outcome, but find irritating those blokes over here denying that there is an Argentine claim and that there is a conflict. Besides, it is Malvinas' most important issue ever.

Ejrrjs | What? 18:50, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

WPAR

I saw your "just did it" on the NB. And... I just did add myself :-))). Gracias for comming to my talk page. Well, I am not a WPdian of AR, I am German. But I like geography, spanish and tango. I think the latter being my strongest link, especially to BsAs. BTW: Allways if I see your name I think you must be german. :-) the name sounds super german. great that you started WPARTobias Conradi (Talk) 23:15, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Hes Jewish not German, however Kessel is about as German a name as you will ever find, it sounds alot more German than Conradi.

My RFA

Thank you very much for your vote on my RFA, it is now the 8th most supported RFA ever, and it couldnt have happened without your vote. I look forward to serving wikipedia. Again, thanks. →Journalist >>talk<< 23:38, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Colectivo

I like how the thing is. I like what you did. The foreigners started to work on it ... lets see what happen... --Zzzzzzus 13:29, 4 October 2005 (UTC)zzzzzzus

Wassup, Sebas??? Will you put the article to FA consideration? I just uploaded a better Main Picture, but dont know what happened...

About the article, I think would be better to copy the style of one of the featured articles and switch the titles from ...-... to ...to...

Whatever, if you want my vote for your nomination I will give it to you. You take all the stuff very seriously. I prefer have some fun with the Wikipedia. --201.235.8.119 14:45, 13 October 2005 (UTC)zzzzzzus

Colectivo

Thanks for the feedback. Wasn't sure that I hadn't overstepped the bounds with one or two of the changes. And I just had to get a mention of the metro in there -- I hope the omission wasn't a deliberate artefact of subte/colectivo rivalry. Cheers, –Hajor 18:21, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Envite to Argentine Wikiproject

Thanks Sebastian, I added myself to the list. I hope this project to be successfull!

Mxcatania

Thanks for the star

Thanks a lot for the barnstar. It does work! I didn't even know such a thing existed, and yet it feels very nice to get one. I think I'm going to display it somewhere... :) --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 22:02, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Gracias Sebas!

Gracias for tus felicitaciones, y de nuevo por tu apoyo, Sebastian! Ya soy admin! No lo puedo creer... Espero que eso sirva aunque sea un poquito en nuestro nuevo proyecto. Estoy pensando un diseño para un posible Wikiportal on Argentina, y tengo varios articulos en mente. Creo que igualmente, gracias a la activa labor tuya y de otros argentinos ya existe una cantidad de informacion muy importante, comparable a la de otros proyectos angloparlantes como Portal:Texas. Veremos que podemos ir haciendo. De nuevo, gracias, y muchos besos! - Shauri smile! 23:15, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Hazme saber cuando te presentes a RfA, Sebas, que ire corriendo a votarte :) No, nada que ver con Alejandro Sanz ;) Besazos, y tenme al tanto de cualquier movimiento en el proyecto! Shauri smile! 21:36, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Estadio Independiente

Hi, today (October 5, 2005) an anonymous user created an article about the Estadio Independiente, but it needs translation to English (and needs some work, as it is POV). As you worked in the past on some Argentine stadium articles, feel free to translate this one. Translating it to English will prevent it from being listed for deletion. Thanks. Regards, Carioca 13:20, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

List of Jews

Of course I don't mind! It's a team effort. --Vizcarra 22:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Chart

I do them for almost everyone under 2,000 edits. I didn't do one for Wikiwoohoo and won't. In his case, I think it's pointless. Already, the first five votes against him are strictly based on edit counts/time on Wikpedia. A chart won't change that. --Durin 22:59, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Sergio Goycochea

I fixed the cat., thanks! I think it would be great if we upload an image of El Goyco...

RE: Aha!

Yes, Seba, I did advertise those categories at Argentina-related notice board. I'm trying to fix most of the biographies from Argentine people by labeling them!

Mxcatania 21:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

You got the msg, I saw you add Julito Arca to List of Bonaerenses. You're great!!!

Mxcatania 22:01, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Friendly Chat

Hola Sebastian, como estas? You don't know me and I've never had the pleasure of running into you before, however I saw your self nomination in RFA. I am very selective when it comes to voting, as you can see I've only voted for you after checking you out and I'm very impressed. I believe that you will make a great Administrator, good luck. Count me among your Wiki friends. Tony the Marine 04:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Tu te lo ganaste, Tony the Marine 16:07, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Gracias, la he movido a mi userpage! :) --Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 17:51, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Where?

Hi Sebastian, sorry to bother you but do you know where Valentín Alsina is? I think it could be in or near Buenos Aires, but I haven't a clue (I only know that it's in the same country :-D). The reason I ask is because it currently goes to an article about a politician, and I'd like to link to Gustavo López's place of birth. Hope you can help. Gracias por adelantado. Take care. SoLando (Talk) 04:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Ah, thank you dude! My ignorance can really be cringe-worthy at times :-) SoLando (Talk) 04:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Seasons in Argentine football

Bravo! You still have to beautify the main page, but the seasons look splendid. Mariano(t/c) 09:08, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Club Atlético Huracán

Seba, I saw you reverted my fix (Huracán > Huracán de Parque Patricios). I think what I did was right because for non-Argentine football supporters some confusion might appear with the name of both teams (at least at first sight, indeed?). Well, I just wanted to say that.

Mxcatania 16:48, 12 October 2005 (UTC)