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Happy editing! —C.Fred (talk) 22:38, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IPA and Turkish language

Greetings! I see you changed some IPA notations in the Turkish language article, but you used symbols that aren't the key for Turkish IPA. Could you explain more what the expanded symbols are and why you're using symbols not in the key? —C.Fred (talk) 22:39, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

Your recent editing history at Turkish language shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 23:00, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a edit war.I just edit the right one. Science boy 30 (talk) 23:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is a dispute based on content, so it is an edit war. Also, the three revert rule is a bright-line rule; there is no exception you qualify for with your edits. —C.Fred (talk) 23:05, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, still you should use mine.I do not want to disobey any rules of course.But I am the expert on this.So please stop insisting and use mine. Science boy 30 (talk) 23:10, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you are an expert, then you can certainly provide reliable sources at the article's talk page to support the expanded IPA notation that you have used. Whether you are an expert or not, you need to source the changes to the pronunciation. —C.Fred (talk) 23:13, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can see any detail in turkish phonology website.If you claim that is not reliable, you can delete that website.Also you did not use any resource. Science boy 30 (talk) 23:17, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Neither did you. If you make the change again I will not hesitate to report you to the administrators' noticeboard for edit warring. So I highly suggest you find some reliable sources, the guide for what is considered reliable is linked by C.Fred in his comment above. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 23:30, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just like I said I do not want to disobey the rules of course.

Since you are autistic just like me I will forgive you.

After 24 hours I will show the so-called "reliable sources". Science boy 30 (talk) 23:35, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why wait? You can list them now on the talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 23:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not that idiotic :D

I do not want to be banned.

Farewell. Science boy 30 (talk) 23:39, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page does not have anything to do with the three revert rule. In fact that is how content disputes get resolved. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 23:45, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I gave the resource at a different part.You can verify it. Science boy 30 (talk) 23:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Zimmer & Orgun (1999) Science boy 30 (talk) 23:59, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@C.Fred: What do you think? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 00:33, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can also see it on wikipedia Turkish phonology.

And It was made according to Zimmer & Orgun (1999).Turkish l is alveo-palatal so my usage is correct.I would wish you to change it back.I cannot wait anymore since I am so impatient :d.It also exists in Turkish/IPA help. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:35, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please familiarize yourself with narrowness in transcription, e.g. by reading the Handbook of the IPA, the very book in which Zimmer & Orgun (1999) appears, particularly pp. 27–30, before continuing your edit war. Nardog (talk) 16:32, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is I who uses the narrow transcription. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yours is false. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:50, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do not change mine. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:50, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also please learn the difference between phonology and phonetics. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:51, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If it is phonology you have to use narrow transcription not broad transcription like you used. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is exactly the opposite of how it normally is... I wonder if you understand what a phoneme is. Nardog (talk) 17:00, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It does not like like that:

Phonetics is the study of the production and perception of speech sounds, and phonology concerns the study of more complex and abstract sound patterns and structures (syllables, intonation, etc.).

Phonology is narrower. Science boy 30 (talk) 17:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also you added false information: Turkish does not have a glottal stop nor a palatalized t. (ğ website.) Science boy 30 (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely for vandalism, personal attacks, among other things

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Mitch32^{(it's you I like.)} 20:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is been about three days.

Can you unblock me now? Science boy 30 (talk) 16:44, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The general rule in an indefinite block is to wait six months. You'll also need to acknowledge what you did wrong, show that you understand the relevant guidelines, and agree not to do it again. —C.Fred (talk) 13:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In order to acknowledge what I did "wrong" I should first know what I did wrong. Science boy 30 (talk) 17:26, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The block message says vandalism and personal attacks. Edit warring is also part of the issue. So your reading list for the next six months should include: WP:No personal attacks, WP:Edit warring, and WP:Consensus. —C.Fred (talk) 13:51, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Six months have passed.I wish to get unblocked. Science boy 30 (talk) 10:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]